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Hi everyone!
So I am trying to concentrate my recombinant proteins in order to make some assays with them, but I need a "considerable" concentration of each. One of my proteins is around 9kDa and the other one 15.8 kDa. They have been tagged with a 6 His and went already through a Nickel column. SDS PAGEs show considerable concentration of certain amount of protein of interest in many, fragments, hence, it was decided to concentrate them using a PES protein concentrator (3,000 MW concentrators) . However, when spinnning them as protocol suggests and collecting every flowthrough (FT) to localize any "lost" proteins, as well as the concentrated sample, rather than seeing a considerable larger band on the SDS , the bands are discrete, not much concentration is found and there is no protein whatsoever in any other FT to suggest protein is being lost through the filter. Am I facing degradation, or why is it that even concentrating it, is not concentrated.
Thank you all! Welcoming any suggestions or corrections!
Best wishes,
Jorge
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The proteins may be sticking to the filter device. Another approach to concentration may be preferable.
One idea is to rebind them to a small nickel column (assuming the imidazole has already been removed by dialysis), and elute them in a single concentrated fraction with a high concentration of imidazole.
Another idea is to concentrate them by freeze-drying. This is best done after removing most of the low-molecular-weight solutes by dialysis, since the solutes will also be concentrated.
A third idea is to place the sample in a low molecular-weight-cutoff dialysis bag and partially dehydrate the sample by immersing the bag in a dry absorbent resin, such as Bio-Gel or Sephadex, replacing the resin occasionally as it swells.
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I would like to know if anyone tried the western blot with the Instant Blue stained SDS-PAGE gels. Thanks.
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Manuele Martinelli I think, Blue dye doesn't interfere much with the antibody binding. I have done western blotting from Blue native gels (non-fixed gel) several times and it worked fine.
Here, the problem is protein precipitation and fixation as Didier Poncet mentioned.
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I am doing the liposome flotation assay. In the end, I precipitated the protein and then ran the sds-page. But every time I could not see my protein in the gel, it was almost gone, maybe just like a shadow. I asked my colleagues, and they said something wrong happened during my precipitation. I want to find the reasons. Please provide some suggestions for me.
Here is my TCA precipitation protocol:
1. add 1 volume TCA to 10 volumes of my sample, and incubate 30min at 4C
2. centrifugate at 15000rpm, 20min, 4C
3. discard supernatant, and wash with acetone two times (then centrifugate at 15k, 5min, 4C)
4. remove acetone carefully; avoid touching the white precipitation
5. air dry overnight
6. dissolve in 2X loading buffer for SDS-page on the second day
Thank you!
April
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In my experiments, I typically follow the procedure like;
TCA is added to the extract to a final concentration of 10 to 20% and the proteins are allowed to precipitate at 4C overnight (1:1, v/v, sample to TCA solution)...Next, three replicates of ice-cold acetone wash are applied... afterward, the dried protein pellet is dissolved and the protein amount is calculated using BCA to see the best TCA final concentration in terms of protein recovery (precipitation efficacy)...
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I reads some papers or webs on protein sequencing using maldi top MS to sequence digested peptides. But I am wondering that all informations i collected is only about identification of protein bycomparing peptides sequence, % coverage sequence and matches.... No information on full sequence of tageted protein. Can I now exact protein sequence from excised protein band? Or only obtain via protein-coding gene sequencing??. Thank all.
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Sequencing of unknown proteins from a gel can be done by digesting the protein with multiple proteases to obtain overlapping peptides, and using mass spec fragmentation methods to sequence the resulting peptides. It may be difficult to obtain the complete sequence this way, however. Edman degradation can also be used for peptide sequencing instead of mass spec.
It is not necessary to have gene sequence information, but it certainly makes things easier, because the full amino acid sequence can be obtained much more easily from the gene than from peptide sequencing, once the identity of the protein is found from partial peptide sequencing. On the other hand, post-translational modifications will not be observed based only on the gene sequence.
Example:
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Hello everyone,
unfortunately, Bio-Rad discontinued their Mini-PROTEAN 3 Multi-Casting Chamber, with which one could prepare up to 12 polyacrylamide gels for SDS-PAGE in parallel.
Does anyone know of a similar product with compatible dimensions?
Thanks for your input!
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Karina
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It might still be worthwhile to contact biorad customer services to find out if they supplied any subsidiary companies that sell their goods and who might still have stock of this item or even if they have any used ones that they used as demonstartion models that they could let you have. Your company representative can be very useful for this kind of problem
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I am running SDS-Page western blot using 10% acrylamide gels. However, my samples are not migrating more than 55 kDa. The bands are not defined. I am using 4x Laemmli buffer with LDS from Biorad. The cell lysates are human whole brain lysates. I am wondering if the LDS has something to do with this? I tried to boil the samples at 95 degrees for 5 min; heat at 70 degrees for 10 min, all did not work.
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The problem was with the Human Brain Whole Tissue Lysate (Adult Whole Normal), novus. When compared with colorectal cell lysate, this difference was obvious. Thank you all for your comments.
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Write the composition of Resolving Gel
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@Bidwan Sekhar Thanks
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I am trying to run some gels but everytime I do, my samples end up looking very wavy while the scale is ok.
For now my protocol is : sds page gel 12% acrylamide, run at 200V at room temperature for 40min. I prepare my sample by mixing them in a dye (commercial one) which I have to add beta-mercaptoethanol (BME) to it according to the notice. Then I put then 5 min at 95°C and I load them onto the gel.
I already tried to change few things in my protocol to improve my results but nothing worked I always have this huge blot in the end instead of thin strips. I changed :
- all the solutions and bought back every item so I am sure they are fresh.
- I ran the gel in the cold room at 4°C
- I ran the the gel at 120V
The only thing that comes to my mind now is to remove the BME because it is the only thing that I add compare to the scale.
Have someone had the same kind of issues ?
Thank you very much in advance ! :)
Jenny
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Are your initial samples in a buffer that is high in salt? I have seen similar artifacts occur for that reason as well.
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I am facing an issue related to horizontal smearing on SDS gel. I have changed all the buffers and acrylamide with fresh ones, but I am still facing the issue. Below, the image is attached, where you can see the horizontal smear (thin line) appearing at the end of the gel. Other vertical smears in some wells are due to samples, but the horizontal one appears in every gel. Can you please provide a solution to solve this issue?
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Allah Rakha Yaseen I'm cheering you on to overcome your difficulties. I suggest you try a higher percentage of SDS-PAGE gels.
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Cannot separate between 10~25kD, always have a line around 25kD...
(Resolving gel buffer: 30% Acrylamide/Bis, 1.5M Tris-Cl, pH 8.8, 10% SDS, 10% APS, TEMED)
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I suggest using a tricine-page modification to get a higher resolution for lower MW especially for the below 20kda...
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I am working on expression and purification of one cytoplasmic protein with His tag, in E coli Bl21(DE3) host cell. Here is SDS picture. Line 2 and 9 are cell lysate, 3,4,7,8 wash steps and 5,6 are elutes using different purification procedure. The expected size is 48 kDa. For protein extraction I used a high pressure homogenizer, also I didn’t use any inhibitors. I was told to try to use Bugbuster protein extraction reagent supplemented with benzonase, do you think it might help?
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Proteins don't always run at the expected molecular weight on SDS-PAGE. I'd suggest sending a sample of the mostly purified protein off to a mass spec lab to determine the molecular weight of the whole protein.
Meanwhile, it wouldn't hurt to include protease inhibitors when you lyse the cells. There might be a protease-sensitive site near the N- or C-terminus.
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I am running protein samples on SDS-PAGE that are tagged with fluorophores. If I place the gel in a destain solution of 60%water/30%methanol/10% acetic acid, the chemistry reverses and I lose the fluorophore. Is there an alternative storage solution I can use to get my gel to the imager to capture the fluorescence without chemical fixatives? After imaging, I then proceed to Coomassie Blue staining in acetic acid and methanol, at which point I am not worried about losing the fluorophore.
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i'm agree with Paul Rutland
you can just store the gel in milliQ water. it is stable.
Staining and destaining with methanol/acetic acid is the old way to acheive fast results but you can stain and destain gels also with water based stains.
you can find an example of this in the following video on my blog:
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I have inserted crispr vector in BL21 competent cell with ampicillin resistance and after induction with IPTG for protein ...no cas protein band was obtained using SDS page.. not even near to its size both in the supernantant as well as in the pellet... Can anyone help me.. the vector I ordered contains 6x his tag... But no protein after NI Nta agarose...
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Thank you for your time and consideration
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After Transferring the membrane picture with Ponceau S Staining looks like the membrane is burning and has poor transfer. Can someone help with this?
I also noticed something weird on the gel after the transfer, it seems there are some blue spots with Coomassie Blue staining.
Gel condition
12% gel
I load 30 ug protein in each lane with six samples and two ladders separately.
Transfer condition
Wet method: 19-hour/constant 30V at working fridge (4 degrees) with ice bucket
PVDF membrane active with the methanol > 1 mins
The transfer buffer is fresh with 25 mM Tris, 192 mM glycine, and 20%methaol but make a 10* stock solution of transfer buffer, which is 250mM Tris 1920mP Glycine, then add 700ml ddh20 and 200ml Methanol to make 1L transfer buffer.
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1. Picture with PVDF membrane after Ponceau S Staining
2. gel with Coomassie Blue staining after transfer
3. sandwich wet method: only show sponge/ two filter paper/ gel/ (start from black Sponge two filter paper, gel, membrane, two filter paper, Sponge)
4. gel after electrophoresis.
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I got the result after hybridate with an antibody, i tried ponceau s again after that, the problem disappeared for some reason and the membrane looked normal. my supervisor asks me to do an overnight transfer, it seems 1h 100v does not work. Philippe Paget-Bailly
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I want to check the mTORC activity and for that I am using rat kidney. I used cell lytic buffer from Sigma Aldrich to extract the proteins from rat kidney (50mg sample homogenized in 200ul cell lytic buffer with Halt protease and phosphatase inhibitor cocktail followed by centrifugation at 13000 g for 15 minutes), took the protein concentration by BCA assay, and then ran SDS-PAGE at 80V for 1.5 hours. I used BioRad's 10X Tris/Glycine/SDS electrophoresis buffer. I then did the transfer to PVDF at 0.18A for 1.5 hours. I used 10X Tris/Glycine as a transfer buffer. I incubated the blot with S6 primary antibody at 4 degrees overnight, washed with TBST 3 times and incubated with secondary antibody for 2 hours at 4 degrees followed by TBST wash 3 times.
When I developed the membrane, I see the bands are not aligned. I see it smeared. Can anyone help me point out what could be the issue? Shall I lower the voltage while running the gel? or the problem could be something else?
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Definitely looks overloaded. Find the right concentration that provides a clean lane. Choose one sample, and dilute 1:1 in a series starting at the concentration you show above and performing 6 - 8 dilutions. Ideally, you will find the dilution that gives you a non-saturated cleanly run lane. Then go back and use that same dilution/concentration to repeat all of the samples.
In general, it's best to run ranging pilot experiments to determine your dynamic range. You have to be able to quantify/interpret an effect and you are not able to do so with saturated blots. Give it a try and best of luck.
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Hi Everybody. I'm senior in a University in Vietnam. This is fisrt time I do SDS-PAGE, so I want to ask about the correction of my loading buffer recipe for SDS-PAGE as a following file.
In addition, If 0.5M Tris-HCl pH 6.8 isn't available, Can I replace it by 1M Tris-HCl pH 6.8 or any other concentrations of Tris-HCl pH 6.8.
Also, how should I mix these components? (In order or out of order)
(Samples I am using in my research is piglet intestines)
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Both answers are correct
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All my SDS Gels are having wave like thing and no prominent bands. I checked the pH of the buffers and they were optimum.
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Hello Tanvi,
Usually, a vertical streaking could be caused because of poor sample preparation as incomplete protein solubility could block the protein from entering the gel. Make sure that there is adequate homogenization of the lysate and centrifuge the lysate to get rid of any particulate matter that may cause interference.
Another possibility could be sample degradation. So, ensure that you add protease and phosphatase inhibitors during lysate preparation. As far as possible avoid repeated freeze-thaw cycles of the sample.
Finally, too much protein loading could be the cause. Accordingly, you may decrease the amount of protein loading per well.
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I have purified overexpressed protein from BL21 (DE3) cells using Ni-NTA column. When we run purified protein through native PAGE and SDS PAGE both which showed different result. In SDS page showed only one band of purified protein whereas two band in native PAGE. I have proceed whole experiment three times and found same results. What is the possibility to find two band in native page whereas it one in sds page. I have attached native PAGE image.
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Shweta Rai Hii, shweta. I also want to run my purified protein (by Ni-NTA coulmn) in Native Page. can u share the details. I ran 6% resolving gel at 40V at 4 degree. bu could not see any band. Actually size of my protein is 50Kd but on sds-page I could see band around 75 KD (repeated thrice). so I want to run the purified protein in native page.
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We have expressed our protein in chloroplast when we add extraction buffer it get precipitate soon after centrifugation as this is real quick even we don't have a time to prepare sample for SDS-PAGE and Bradford. We have changed the buffers and tried Tris, HEPES, Phosphate and got some how comparable results with HEPES then we check the concentration variables of HEPES from 50mM to 100mM, EDTA from 10mM to 20mM, PEFA-BLOC (protease inhibitor) from 1 to 5mM but it does't working. We have tried TCA/Aceton precipitation, 8M urea treatment in both extraction and sample buffer but still the problem is there
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It is not unusual for heterologously expressed proteins to suffer from insolubility due to the inability to fold correctly during expression. Sometimes, it is necessary to fully denature the protein with urea or guanidine-HCl, purify it, then refold it. This can be challenging. It is often worthwhile to also explore different methods of expression to get soluble protein.
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I have a protein extract that is not purified, I ran it through SDS-PAGE and observed bands of 150-200 kDa and other smaller ones of between 60 and 8 kDa. A colleague ran my samples through FPLC with a 6HR superose column, however in the FPLC protein profile I see peaks of less than 20 kDa, but not larger ones. What could have happened to the larger proteins?
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A possibility is that the proteins were in the form of large aggregates that were not able to penetrate the Superose column, but could be resolved on SDS-PAGE because they were denatured and unfolded by SDS.
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In a Western Blot (WB) experiment, does the concentration of SDS-PAGE gel affect the position of protein bands? In the image, the same protein samples were used for all five lanes. The left side (lane 1, lane 2, lane 3) used a 10% gel, while the right side used a 12.5% gel, with all other conditions being consistent.
Thanks for your kindly help!
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Hi Quan,
The concentration does not play a role in the change in banding pattern. You might observe thicker bands, but that is pretty much all that you should see a difference in. From your image, I still see the same protein bands at the correct size in both the gels, only the intensity varies. This should not be a problem :)
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Hello,
For many phosphorylation studies of MAP kinases, cells are serum-starved overnight prior to stimulation. Serum-free media such as DMEM 1X is supplemented with 0.5% bovine serum albumin. Is there any drawback to including NEAA in the serum-free media? Is NEAA known to cause phosphorylation of MAP kinases?
Thanks!
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Addition of NEAA in serum-free media may affect your experimental results. Amino acids are the basic building blocks of proteins and constitute all proteinaceous material of the cell including the protein component of enzymes, receptors, and signaling molecules. Also, some non-essential amino acids can regulate gene expression and cell signaling pathways. Therefore, under normal conditions, NEAA is used as a supplement for cell culture medium to increase cell growth and viability.
Moreover, MAP kinases regulate diverse cellular programs by relaying extracellular signals to intracellular responses, and coordinately regulate cell proliferation, differentiation, motility, and survival. So, I feel you should limit to serum-free media supplemented with 0.5% bovine serum albumin so that the cells do not proliferate but manage to survive overnight prior to stimulation.
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In a Western Blot (WB) experiment, does the concentration of SDS-PAGE gel affect the position of protein bands? In the image, the same protein samples were used for all five lanes. The left side (lane 1, lane 2, lane 3) used a 10% gel, while the right side used a 12.5% gel, with all other conditions being consistent.
Thanks for your kindly help!
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Yes, elevated concentrations of polyacrylamide in the gel result in narrower gel (mesh in the stationary phase), leading to an extension of the protein's retention time. Consequently, the bands will manifest in slightly altered positions. Various other factors can influence these positions, including the composition of the running buffer, as well as electrical parameters such as the selected voltage and amperage. It is essential to acknowledge that these parameters will uniformly affect both the marker and the protein. Therefore, it is advisable to optimize these parameters in conjunction with an appropriate marker, taking into consideration the size of the protein in question.
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My current protein concentration is 13mg/ml. To load 30ug protein for SDS PAGE, only 2.15uL is needed, can i load 2.15uL sample + 2.15uL 2X Laemmli Buffer = 4.3uL in the well or do I dilute the sample first so that more volume is needed?
If so, how do I dilute the cell lysate, or can I just use PBS?
Help!
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I diluted my proteins in pbs. It works just fine. Alternatively, you can dilute them in your lysis buffer so that they will have final concentration of 3ug/ul. In that scenario, you can load 10 ul for each well and they all contain 30 ug protein.
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We are optimizing SDS-PAGE, i would like to know the best ratio and percentage for the Staking gel and separation gel of Acrylamide.
Its like 37.1:1 and 29.1 and 19.1 and also 30% and 40%,
So i am confused about it.
Your recommendation would help alot.
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Use 30% acrylamide and make 10 to 12% resolving gel. Use 4% stacking gel with 30% acrylamide. You will get sharp band.
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Hello everyone,
I am performing western blot (SDS-PAGE) for the phospho-mTOR protein, molecular weight 289 KD. I am using 6% resolving gel for it. I kept the transferring time around 4 to 6 hours at 60 volt (4 degree C). However I am not able to get the proper band. Please share any idea/knowledge.
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In addition to using 6% resolving gel, thickness of the gel is an important factor to consider. Large molecular weight proteins transfer more effectively from thinner gels than from thicker varieties. There is less distance for proteins to migrate during electrophoretic transfer in a 1mm gel than in a 1.5mm gel which may require longer transfer and high molecular weight proteins may get transferred less efficiently.
Always use wet tank transfer to detect high molecular weight proteins. The composition of your transfer buffer is also important. Large proteins can precipitate out in the presence of methanol. You may avoid this by decreasing the percentage of methanol (use 10% or less) in your transfer buffer. Additionally, just to ensure that the protein does not precipitate out, you may add SDS to a final concentration of 0.1%. SDS adds uniform negative charge to proteins, making it easier for them to transfer from the gel onto the membrane.
For high molecular weight proteins, use PVDF membrane (0.45um pore size) for transfer because large proteins can precipitate out in the presence of methanol, and PVDF membrane does not require any methanol in the transfer buffer. Since large molecular weight proteins will transfer out of the gel slowly, I recommend transferring overnight (around 16 hours) at 4°C at 20-30V instead of using 4 to 6 hours for transfer.
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I am trying to detect a secreted protein by Western blot in plan tissue. To this aim, we are using a simple protein extraction protocol based on TX-100 and DTT. Then, I am loading the samples in a SDS-PAGE and doing western blotting. However, I don´t detect my protein eventhough it should be overexpressed… We have read that this protein is secreted. Should I perform another protocol to identify it? Can this protocol somehow promote degradation of my protein ?
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Plant tissues often contain polyphenol oxidase enzymes that can damage proteins by chemical modification. To avoid this, include polyvinylpyrrolidone in the extraction buffer. Also include protease inhibitor cocktail.
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I am running SDS page gels using the mini-PROTEAN tetra vertical tank. Gels ran normally up until about 3/4 of the way down the gel. At this point, the dye changes from blue to yellow and became distort. I have inspected the module so this is not the problem. The electrophoresis buffer used has the correct pH. The loading dye was Laemmli Loading Buffer. All gels were run at 140V for 50-60 minutes.
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I think your protein samples contain a large amount of something else that is causing interference with electrophoresis. I suspect it may be lipids or detergent, judging by the appearance of the stained gel below the bands and the drab yellow color.
You may have to clean up the samples before electrophoresis to remove this stuff.
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Hey all
A few of my lab-mates store the protein after quantification (I used bradford assay) in cell lysis buffer containing protease inhibitor in -80. While others add loading dye and denature the protein in 95 degree and store it in -20.
I have quantified the protein in the cell lysate. However dye to time constraints and huge sample protein I couldn't add the loading dye after the quantification process. (2 hours had already passed While I was calculating the amount of loading dye required for each sample). I got panicked thinking the protein in the cell lysate would be degraded and hence upon an advice from a fellow senior I aliquoted 20uL of each sample into another 1.5 mL centrifuge tube and stored the the stock and the aliquot in -80. So that I need not freeze and thaw my stock again and again.
Following are my queries
1. At what stage is it recommended to store the protein?
2. Does the concentration differ after storage?
3. Do I need to do bradford assay once again after I thaw them from -80?
4. what is the incubation period for bradford assay? (after adding BSA to the bradford reagent how long should I wait to take the reading or should I take the reading straight away?
Thank you
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I think it was a good idea to set aside a small portion of the lysate for subsequent quantitation and preparation for electrophoresis if you were not able to do those steps immediately. I also agree with storing the bulk of the lysate at -80oC if you can't immediately proceed with purification steps. However, it would be better to prepare the lysate when you have time to go directly to the first purification step, since the lysate is the point at which proteolysis is most likely to be a problem. Freezing should be done as rapidly as possible, using a dry ice/ethanol bath or liquid nitrogen.
The concentration should not change during storage, unless there is significant precipitation, so it should not be necessary to repeat the Bradford assay. Make sure the sample is well-mixed after thawing, because some separation of solutes can occur during freezing.
The incubation period for the Bradford is 5-10 minutes. If you wait too long, the protein will precipitate due to the acidity of the reagent.
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Purpose of using stain and de-stain in SDS-PAGE gel
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Hello Dipika,
I agree with Dr. Fayoud's answer and I would like to add that destaining can be crucial when you want to quantify the stained proteins. Total protein stains like silver stain and coomassie brilliant blue, require special solvent solutions that remove stain bound on gel ingredients (like SDS); thus removing the excessive dye and increasing the final image's contrast. Background destaining is important when dealing with low protein concentration, where the difference from the background is crucial to the interpretation of the results.
Hope this helps
George
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I am working on the brain tissue of mice (10% SDS-PAGE gel). The protein sample was extracted with lysis buffer (Tris-HCL, Triton, and B-mercaptoethanol). I think this leakage is due to the interaction between the protein sample and Triton. To be sure of this idea, I tried to do a control gel in which only the lysis buffer and the marker were loaded, where a well-separated marker refers to good electrophoresis, and after the staining step, the background was clear. what should I do?
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Hi Basima
Try out these things:
1. Ensure your gel is properly solidified and not shrinked.
2. I would highly encourage to go for different concentrations of acrylamide for stacking and resolving part.
3. Sometimes, higher concentration of sample could be a trouble.
4. If sample is loaded for long without any voltage, the sample gets dissolved and spreads out of the wells.
*In the provided image, if second lane is the marker.... then it appears like the gel did not ran properly.
**In this case, I would recommend re run of a freshly made or preordered but intact gel .. if possible, a gradient gel... with a marker loaded in one of the lanes (to have a better idea)
Hope this helps :)
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I made two 10% sds-page gel (10% resolving and 4% stacking) and run them at 20mA. I am testing whether my newly edited recipe for gel casting is correct or not. Apparently, the gels took 3hr for the dye front to reach the bottom of the gels. The problem is somehow the protein ladders started to separate within the stacking gel, there are 4 to 5 bands above the interface and the remaining bands at the resolving gel.
May I ask anybody who knows how to resolve this issue or not?
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Have you freshly prepared the reagents for polyacrylamide preparation?... (TEMED, APS, acrylamide solutions)...Your gel polymerization seems non-homogenous according to the given information...If the resolution starts at stacking gel, the experimental percentage is probably higher than the theoretical gel percentage which may have originated from improper application or the aged reagents (inaccurate polymerization)...
You indicated the newly edited recipe, what was changed, and can you able to verify without editing that the old recipe works well with the same reagents?
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I tried to express a Large fusion protein (about 223 KDa) in bacteria (BL21de3) in the pet28b vector, but it failed as the SDS PAGE shows just very few proteins successfully expressed. I wonder if may change the vector to pCold TF.
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in my experience the expression yields for large proteins (>100-150KDa) in E.coli is generally low, and often protein degradation in subdomain is observed due to the presence of proteases in he E.coli citoplasm and secretion ability of the E.coli in the periplasm is limited to lower MW (eg you can easly produce a Fab antibody in the periplasm while is very difficult to obtain a full lenght mab)
If you gene is derived from an eucariotic organism you can try to perform codon optimization to improve the expression yield but i think that mammalian cells as Expi293 are more able to work with so high MW.
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At a fixed voltage of 260V, electrophoresis of protein was faster in our previous batch of 1x SDS running buffer. However, the electrophoresis was much slower recently with much lower current (less than half of the previous one). The same issue occurs even with new dilution of freshly prepared 10x buffer to the 1x buffer. What would be the possible reasons of such issue?
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Check the electrodes. If you see them covered with whitish stuff, remove it with wet tissue or brush until the metal surface is exposed.
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I mixed EDTA mouse plasma with standard gel sample buffer and got very smeary image on Western with no distinct bands. Is there something in the plasma that needs to be removed before I run gels?
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When working with plasma samples for Western blotting, certain components in the plasma can interfere with electrophoresis and contribute to smearing on the gel or affect the separation of proteins. Here are some considerations and steps you can take to improve the resolution of your Western blot:
  1. Remove Lipids:Plasma contains lipids, which can cause smearing on the gel. To remove lipids, you can perform a quick spin or centrifugation step before loading the sample onto the gel. Centrifuging the plasma at a higher speed can pellet lipids, and the supernatant can be collected for further analysis.
  2. Deplete Albumin:Albumin, being a highly abundant protein in plasma, can sometimes dominate the gel and hinder the separation of other proteins. You may consider depleting albumin using methods such as albumin depletion columns or other commercially available kits.
  3. Precipitate Proteins:Precipitating proteins with a compatible reagent or using a protein precipitation method can help remove interfering substances and concentrate your protein of interest.
  4. Use Sample Buffer with Reducing Agent:Ensure that your sample buffer contains a reducing agent (e.g., DTT or β-mercaptoethanol) to break disulfide bonds and denature proteins. This is crucial for obtaining well-defined bands on Western blots.
  5. Properly Prepare the Gel:Make sure your gel is properly prepared and run under appropriate conditions. This includes using the correct percentage gel for the size range of your proteins and running the gel at a suitable voltage.
  6. Optimize Electrophoresis Conditions:Optimize electrophoresis conditions, such as voltage and run time, to achieve the best separation of proteins. Running the gel at a lower voltage for a longer time can sometimes improve resolution.
  7. Verify Protein Loading:Ensure that you are loading the appropriate amount of protein. Overloading can lead to smearing and poor band resolution.
  8. Use a Pre-cast Gel:Consider using pre-cast gels, as they are standardized and can provide better reproducibility.
  9. Check Antibodies and Detection System:Verify the specificity and sensitivity of your antibodies. Ensure that your detection system is optimized for the proteins of interest.
  10. Consider Gel Filtration or Size-Exclusion Chromatography:
  • If needed, you can consider using gel filtration or size-exclusion chromatography to separate proteins based on size before running them on a gel.
By addressing these considerations and optimizing your sample preparation and electrophoresis conditions, you should be able to achieve clearer and more distinct bands on your Western blot.
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Hi everyone,
I purified Pfu and I treated samples in the heat block. however in the Pfu lane I can see multiple bands, can someone explains what could it be?
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The most obvious explanation is that the protein was not purified to homogeneity by the method employed.
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Hi all,
I was doing protein purification and after that I had to add 2 uL DTT (1mM), but instead, I added 1000 uL DTT (1mM) to my protein solution. I would like to ask you, if my mistake has any bad effect on my protein? I have to run SDS-Page, but I don't know if this amount of DTT would change the results?
best
Amir
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Thank you so much they were very inforative
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Do you know of any of this software that is compatible with Apple computers? I tried GelAnalyzer4, PyElph, and the free online gel analyzer, but it is not working anymore.
What would be the minimum amount of protein needed to detect heme by TMBZ (3,3,5,5′-tetramethylbenzidine)? I am using cytochrome C from equine heart (positive control), chitinase (negative control), and Z-ISO (unknown). I want to do a quick sporting on filter paper of the presence of heme.
I would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
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Manuele Martinelli, thank you for the notes. They help explore different ways to analyze it.
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I am relatively new to conducting Western blots. I employed the alkaline lysis method to extract whole proteins from yeast. Subsequently, I introduced the Opti Protein Marker (ABM, CAT log NO: G252) and completed the gel electrophoresis. The proteins were then transferred to a nitrocellulose membrane using the wet transfer method. Following the transfer, I performed a Ponceau staining, during which the protein markers were clearly visible.
Moving forward, I proceeded to block the membrane for 1 hour in 5% BSA in TBST (Initially, I attempted blocking with 5% non-fat skimmed milk, but encountered high background signals). Subsequent to blocking, I washed the membrane with TBST (3 x 7 mins) and TBS (1 x 5 min). Following this, I incubated the membrane overnight at 4 degrees Celsius with a primary antibody (Beta-tubulin, Rabbit IgG Polyclonal), 1:1000 dilution in 5% BSA in TBST). Afterward, I repeated the washing steps with TBST (3 x 7 mins) and TBS (1 x 5 min).
For the next step, I incubated the membrane with a secondary antibody (Rabbit anti-Goat IgG (H+L), HRP, Polyclonal, 1:10,000 diluted with 5% non-fat skimmed milk in TBST) for 3 hours. Subsequently, I performed additional washes with TBST (3 x 7 mins) and TBS (1 x 5 min). Finally, I carried out chemiluminescence detection with an exposure time of 30 seconds.
However, my results were unsatisfactory as I observed multiple nonspecific bands, and the protein marker disappeared. I seek assistance from experienced researchers, especially those familiar with Western blotting of yeast proteins. I would appreciate any insights or suggestions to identify and resolve the issues.
Additionally, please refrain from suggesting the use of monoclonal antibodies, as it is currently beyond my budget constraints.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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If you or others have not tested this antibody before then it's possible this is just a "bad" antibody that binds to multiple proteins. It's very common for antibodies to show different results than what is advertised by the company selling them.
I can't find much information about your protein marker, but you should make sure this marker is compatible with chemiluminescence. Ponceau staining will stain all proteins, so that's why you could see the marker protein there. But if the protein marker is not modified or your secondary antibody does not bind to the marker proteins, then you will get no chemiluminescence signal from the marker protein. You can read more about this at the bottom of this page: https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/life-science/protein-biology/protein-biology-learning-center/protein-biology-resource-library/pierce-protein-methods/chemiluminescent-western-blotting.html
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Gel electrophoresis, recombinant protein, expression in bacteria, molecular biology
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Your gel should have the exact same layout as your Western blot, because your Western blot is a transfer of your gel directly onto the membrane. You might not be noticing the right band on your gel. Maybe the band is very thin by eye with coomassie, or even barely visible, but it jumps out as a very major band with the antibody detection. This happens frequently. Most proteins studied are not the major protein expressed in the cell.
Do you have a different molecular weight ladder for Western and Coomassie stain? If you run the same ladder on both, that may clarify the situation.
Proteins do not necessarily run on the SDS PAGE gel according to their expected molecular weight from the protein sequence. There are several possible reasons for this, such as glycosylation and shape.
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I prepared GST-tagged protein. The molecular weight of my protein (50kda) with GST (26 kDa) tag is 76 kDa. After removal of GST tag the molecular weight should be 50 kDa but in SDS page I got 40 kDa. Can anyone please suggest me the cause?
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There could be more than one reason fo this observation.
After the cleavage of the GST tag, the protein's sequence could lead to an anomalous migration in SDS-PAGE (+/- 5 to 10 kDa difference in the expected vs. observed MW is not rare).
Or the cleavage after the GST may not be only site that is cleaved, there could be another site cleaved by the added protease (or proteases from the lysate). This should be something that is time-dependent, so after shorter incubation you should observe more than one band (full-length and shorter version). In any case, you should confirm the size and identity of that band.
Another reason could be something that is associated with the GST-protein e.g. a chaperone like DnaK (which happens to be around 40kDa in size), and while you cleave your protein, it could become insoluble without GST and only the soluble chaperone stays in solution and with the GST-protein removed, it could remain the only protein in your "purified" fraction.
Hope that helps.
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I was doing transformation using plasmid with kanamycin resistance into BL21 DE3 E. coli cells with ampicillin resistance. I plated the culture on amp+kana plates and amp only plates. However, only colonies were found on the amp only plate. Since the transformation has fail several times before this, I decided to inoculate the colony from the amp only plate and continue the experiment (grow the culture to 0.55 OD600 and add IPTG). Afterwhich I ran a SDS-PAGE. I observed a difference between before IPTG and after, and the protein bands in the after IPTG lane corresponded to my protein of interest, which should not have been expressed... Does anyone have any knowledge about this? Please help.
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What is the source of the Ampicillin resistance?
But there are going to be a few different proteins expressed with IPTG induction one of which will be the T7 polymerase that may well have many metabolic consequences.
If your gene is only on the Kan plasmid then it likely is not really your protein being expressed but you can confirm by western blot as suggested by Jahaziel Gasperin Bulbarela
There should not be any difference in using agarose vs bacto agar (other than a large difference in price).
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Hi. Recently, as a mean to increase yield, I added 0.1% of Tx-100 into all of my IEX purification buffer including the sample injected. However, when analyzed on SDS -PAGE, I observed that there was no single band of my POI at the target size but instead as the picture shown; strong band in between 50 and 37kDa and a very faint band at 25kDa (is not visible in pic). FYI, my target protein is 49kDa and the GST tag is 26kDa. Is it possible for TX-100 to cleave my protein?
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Are you using new IEX column? If using old column, is it used before for any protease purification in the past. I think check the samples before and after IEX. I don't think it is becuase of only Tx-100.
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I need a detailed protocol of SDS-PAGE only for drosophila if anyone has done before
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Hi Gorthi,
Have you considered utilizing Schneider's medium? Thanks!
Anthony
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Dear researchers,
When I run SDS-PAGE, sometimes I found that the high molecular weight bands (including bands of the molecular weight marker) disappear from the gel, but low molecular weight bands are visible (see figure below). I've made new running buffer and new component solutions used to make the gel, but this still happen occasionaly.
Has anyone run into the same problem? I would be very appreciated if anyone knows the cause and possible solution. Thanks in advance.
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@Xingchen chen was your problem resolved? I'm facing same issue. Bands about 66kDa not visible like on your gel. Could you please help me find a solution?
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Good afternoon,
I try to extract cell wall proteins from green macroalgae, I have tried different protocols and one of them included step of EGTA extraction, however this fraction is jelly like, so I expect polysaccharides from cell wall to be present. When loaded to SDS-PAGE, it was obvious that the gel pores were blocked and no bends were obtained, just light blue streak. According to Bradford, in this fraction I have quite a lot of proteins with which I would like to do Western Blot... I have already tried aceton precipitation, but still a lot of polysaccharides remained....So please do you have any recommendations how to get rid of these polysaccharides?
Thank you very much,
Tereza
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I met the same problem. Did you solve it?
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In my procedure, I first label the protein with a probe and perform a Copper-catalyzed azide-alkyne cycloaddition (CuAAC) or CLICK reaction to append the protein-probe complex to a reporter tag. I have seen in several articles that the samples are not heated at 95°C in the loading buffer before running on an SDS-PAGE gel because of which I don't get crisp protein bands on gel. Is there any particular reason for not heating the sample? Can I do something to get better protein bands on the gel? [I have attached a gel image for this as well]
Thanks in advance.
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Would you please provide those articles? I think I am facing the same problem. Many thanks!
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Hi everyone,
I did SDS-PAGE for a series of proteins that I was sure about them. In my SDS-PAGE was added TCE (2,2,2-trichloro ethanol) as stain free for proteins. After running the gel I took it and put on UV transluminator for giving uv wavelenght (about 250-360 nm) excitation, AFTER exposure time about 1-5 min, I deteced for emition but no sign with proteins bands and gel was clear.
What should I do for visiting my proteins bands under UV?
I had proteins bands when I was staining gel by commassie blue.
Do I need a specific chemoDOC instrument? or I can do it by typical UV transluminator?
Best wishes
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Thanks dear Arghavan,
I have force to use this type of colour.
Have you ever done this type of gel? Did you use to use stain free gel in a special instrument?
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I am running some pulldown experiments using plasma samples(click biotin linker on protein, then blot against Strep-HRP). We started the experiment with a known protein (Lane 2-5) then plasma samples (Lane6-9), lane 5 and 9 both incubated with alkyne-biotin. Although the signal is very small and on WB I need to overexpose to see it, but the bands on lane 9 is giving a bizarre signal. Could anyone help me understand the reason for this and how to solve it?
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Thank you Anupriya, the antibody concentration is 1:50000, I have also tested 1: 10000(attached picture last two bands) Strep-HRP(20ml, completely cover the blot) but I think the result is similar only more intensed. I also prepared fresh antibody each time.
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I expressed an extracellular protein and I have obtained good readings on protein assay as it is GFP-tagged. However, I do not obtain any bands for the protein on the SDS PAGE. What could be the possible solution?
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Do you have a positive control for staining, such as another protein, to check for a problem with the staining procedure?
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Hi all, I used pngase f to release glycan from transferrin. here is my protocol.
1. I prepared storage buffer for the pngase f without glycerol and aliquot them into different vial
2. I took 10 microgram of protein and denatured @ 100°C for 10 min
3. added Np40
4. then glycobuffer
5. pngase f added in the conc of 5mU, 50mU, 0.5U, 5U, 25U, 50U and incubated for 16 hrs.(1:10 v/v) total reaction vol 50 microlitre
6. I took 20 microlitre from that and prep for loading into sds page.
Here is my result. is my pngase f showing activity? or it looses activity because of no glycerol used in the buffer?
Lane 1 - standard
Lane 2 - without enzyme
Lane 3 - precipated after incubation
Lane 4 - 50U
Lane 5 - 25U
Lane 6 - 5U
Lane 7 - 0.5U
Lane 8 - 50mU
Lane 9 - 5U
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You should use a lower percentage acrylamide gel in order to improve the ability to distinguish between different molecular weights around that of your protein. If the protein is glycosylated with a large amount of carbohydrate, you should be able to see the band shift to a lower position on the gel after PNGase treatment.
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Hello, we have been struggling with the lots of background in our wb membranes probed with an anti-Streptavidin-HRP from Thermofisher (Pierce 21134). Samples contained biotinilated proteins. Every time there is some blobs somewhere and so much background that it is hard so see our biotinilated proteins. I attached the same pic with different contrast. Did anyone face the same problem?
All stepts have been performed with PBS 1X and here the protocol:
  • After transfer, rinse off membrane for 5 min in PBS
  • Block with BSA blocking buffer (1% filtered BSA and 0.2% Triton x-100 in PBS) for 30 min
  • incubation with streptavidin antibody 1:2000 dilution ON at 4C
  • Rinse off with PBS three times and do ABS blocking (10% adult bovin serum and 1% triton x-100 in PBS) for 5 min
  • Rinse off with PBS three times and incubate with PBS for 5 min
  • Develop with ECL for 5 min and acquire
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I have been working with Streptactin-HRP to recognize TwinStrep tagged proteins. I did trials using BSA or milk to block (although they do not recommend using milk to block membranes as skimmed milk contains biotinylated proteins ) and no difference was found comparing these two for my experiments.
What I do after transfer (semi-dry system):
1. Stain with Ponceau to check the transfer and then, wash with 1x TBS-T (0.02% Tween) until dye is removed.
2. Block with a solution of 5% skimmed milk (powder) in 1x TBS-T for 1hour on an orbital shaker.
3. Wash 3 times for 10min each wash with TBS-T
4. Incubate the Streptactin-HRP (I was using a dilution of 1:50.000 IBA lifesciences in TBS-T) overnight in the cold room on an orbital shaker.
5. Next morning, wash 3 times with TBS-T (10min each wash).
6. Develop by adding ECL solution, incubate for 1 min and acquire image with iBright Thermofisher or X-ray films.
Normally I get very clean membranes with sharp bands, when the amount of the protein of interest was low, I could see some background from the membrane but nothing crazy. Looking at your membrane, there are patches that are very dirty, make sure when washing the membranes to add enough TBS-T to cover the membranes and avoid folding or bending the membrane, treat the membrane carefully and always use tweezers to work with the membrane.
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Why is the reduced protein (with 2-ME) placed higher than the non-reduced one in SDS-PAGE?
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the reason why a reduced protein generally run slower respect a non reducing protein is because the reduced protein, which miss intramolecular S-S bonds is less compact (unfolded) and therefore the hydrodinamic radius increase.
An exception is possible when the cysteines are involved in intermolecular S-S bonds that in absence of reducing agent can drive to detection in SDS page of the aggregates as dimer, multimer, oligomers.
at minute 7'50'' of the following video
on my blog (ProteoCool) you can see a more detailed explanation about it.
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Manuele
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I need to collect proteins after SDS-PAGE electrophoresis to quantify the proteins present in the target bright line using the bradford method. So how can I separate the protein and remove the polyacrylamide gel and SDS from the protein? Can you recommend some methods and ways to do that? Thanks for everything.
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You may use the method of passive elution of protein from polyacrylamide gel pieces. The protocol is as follows.
1. You may place the cut gel pieces containing the protein of interest in a clean microcentrifuge tube.
2. Add 0.5−1 ml of elution buffer (containing 50 mM Tris-HCl, 150 mM NaCl, 0.1 mM EDTA, pH 7.5) in such a way that the gel pieces are completely immersed.
3. You may crush the gel pieces using a clean pestle, and incubate overnight on the shaker at 30°C.
4. Centrifuge at 5,000−10,000 x g for 10 min, and carefully pipet the supernatant into a new microcentrifuge tube.
5. You may confirm the presence of protein by subjecting a portion of the supernatant to SDS-PAGE.
6. If you wish to concentrate your protein of interest, you could use the acetone precipitation method to concentrate the protein.
Best.
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What would be the possible reason for this:
Following are our PAGE setup;
Protein Source:Rat Liver
Preparation : Ground in Lysis buffer and centrifuged and collected supernatant. Equalised all the samples with lysis buffer and loaded using 5x sample loading dye and beta mercaptoethanol.
Concentration : 30 microgram
SDS PAGE : 10%gel. Run 1.5 hr (120 V)
Sample preparation
Sample buffer (SDS reducing buffer)
3.55 ml deionized water
1.25 ml 0.5 M Tris-HCl, pH 6.8 2.5 ml glycerol
2.0 ml 10% (w/v) SDS
0.2 ml 0.5% (w/v) Bromophenol Blue
9.5 ml total volume
Store at room temperature.
Use: Add 50 µl ß-mercaptoethanol to 950 µl sample buffer prior to use. Dilute the sample at least 1:2 with sample buffer and heat at 95°C for 4 min.
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The cassette with both gels is not properly closed. Running buffer is leaking, that is why the level of buffer is at the short plate height. Once you assemble the two gels in the cassette and fill the inside with buffer (to the top), the level of running buffer shouldn't decrease much during the process. In your case, once the running buffer is not covering properly the short plate, the migration is not equal along the gel.
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The purified protein is exhibiting a trimeric state based on my NATIVE PAGE gel and SDS PAGE shows monomeric configuration. Can you recommend detergents to destabilize the H-bonds mediated by sulfate ions (based on literature)? I have already tried BME and DTT and they don't work.
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Do you heat denature your protein in the BME/DTT at 95-100C for 5 minutes before loading to the gel? If not then the SDS and DTT alone may not be sufficient to completely denature your protein even when run on SDS-PAGE.
Perhaps try heat denaturing your samples in the loading buffer prior to running the samples.
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I want to identify a secretory protein that is secreted from min6 cell in the supernatant can anyone provide protocols?
Firs I want to get conditioned media and then precipitate after that I will do SDS-PAGE and CBB/silver staining. I am a newbie so I don't know how much medium, how much cells is needed for this assay, I couldn't find a good reference
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Hello Sya Retno,
I have found a good reference for you. The work done is almost similar to the work you plan to carry out for your project.
Please refer to the paper attached below. The protocol provided in the article will be helpful.
Best.
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Hello!
I have been doing some SDS-page analysis and before running my samples I added 5x sds sample loading buffer and then i boiled them at 95C for 5 minutes! The loading buffer fabricant told me it contains B-mercaptoetanol!
Can I say i runned my samples on a gel under denaturing and reducing conditions?
thank you
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If you are running an SDS-PAGE, it means it is under denature condition due to the presence of SDS in your sample loading buffer, gel, and running buffer. Also, you mentioned that your sample loading buffer contains betamercaptoethanol, which means that the samples are run under reduced conditions as BME reduces the disulphide bridge.
All the best!
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Dear all,
I have been trying to knockdown using siRNA (duplex) targeted against my protein of interest (# 2 lane shown in the image) and a random non-target siRNA ((# 1 lane shown in the image) treated cell as negative control and non-treated normal cell (# 3 lane shown in the image). I don't see silencing of the gene as could be seen in lane 2. Respective actin loading control is shown below the bands of interest. Currently, I am using 20 nM siRNA with interferring reagent protocol provided from thermofischer. If anyone can suggest any protocol that I can try, will be greatly helpful.
Thank you
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Prem
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Not all proteins are regulated by by transcript abundance. If the protein is rarely degraded, then it can time a long time for levels to drop.
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I have been purifying proteins which have an N-terminal His-tag using Ni-NTA affinity chromatography. I carried out size exclusion chromatography using Superdex HiLoad, Superdex, and Superose columns. I also carried out dialysis of the Ni-NTA purified proteins.
Both the above experiments were performed for buffer exchange and to remove non-specific proteins.
When I ran SDS-PAGE gels for the Ni-NTA purified and dialysed proteins, I could see a single band corresponding to the protein of my interest. Multiple bands beneath the protein of interest could be seen on SDS-PAGE gel for the SEC fractions.
I used appropriate controls to rule out the possibility of degradation due to prolonged exposure at room temperature and the effect of varying salt concentrations.
Please help... to all the protein purification experts out there!!
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If the proteolytic cleavage did occur near the N-terminus, you could not see the fragments with anti-His antibodies. Thats also why polyclonal ab are better than monoclonal for this application.
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Hello,
I am wondering if anyone here who performs SDS-PAGE has seen this before on their gels post-staining? We make our 12% tricine gels in house, fix them in 25% isopropanol 10% acetic acid, then stained overnight in Coomassie G250 35mM HCl. The gels are then destained in distilled water. We are noticing what seems like "halos" or zones of white around our proteins in the gels. I have images and notes attached regarding the issue. When the peptide is in its neat form, it is in a 1M imidazole, 500mM NaCl, 20mM Tris buffer at pH 8. The peptide has a final concentration of 200mM imidazole when it is in its 1/5 diluted form. We have seen this effect many times before, but are not sure what is it causing it. Is it perhaps due to the presence of imidazole; can the imidazole, or maybe just an overall high salt concentration, cause this effect? We use fresh running buffer, fresh fixative and fresh gel reagents (e.g. new aliquots of APS) for each run. Coomassie is reused and made fresh every month and a half; the Coomassie used here is less than a month old.
Any input or words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks in advance.
Leisha
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Hello Leisha. I recently ran a gel where I had the same problem. Did you ever figure out the cause? Thanks
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I am looking for an alternative to kerosene (CMR) and mineral oil (too viscous) used as cooling fluid for IEF and SDS-PAGE electrophoresis performed on multiphor apparatus (flatbed).
Does anyone have an idea, solution and experience ?
Thanks !!
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Hello Virginie Leduc. Can I ask you for article where it is described in detail?
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I recently performed protein extraction with RIPA buffer of some cells I collected. The intended purpose was to use it to load in an SDS PAGE gel for subsequent Western Blot. I made the mistake of lysing the cells in too much RIPA buffer and although there is protein, the sample is too diluted. I want to load 20 micrograms of total protein per lane, and I have roughly 400 microlitres of a protein solution at 0.13 microgram/microlitre. Since there is no gel that supports having 150 microlitres of sample loaded into a lane, I am looking for a way to concentrate what I have rather than just discarding it.
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My postdoc once made a gel comb with one big deep tooth, then poured a custom 2-part gel using the usual formula. By running at low voltage at first, the protein concentrates at the stacking/running interface.
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My gel running is going well but as the maker running down towards the end of the run, it got spread out towards the outside of its own lane, not so sure how could it can happen, even I tried to load the empty lane with 1x loading buffer
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One reason could be uneven heating. Try running the gel at a lower voltage to reduce the amount of heat generated.
Another reason could be that the composition of marker samples and the samples in the adjacent wells differ substantially in ionic strength. Salty samples tend to spread sideways into lanes occupied by low-salt samples.
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SDS-PAGE details are available for collagen type I and I could get the bands of subunits of the same. I need the protocol for native-PAGE too.
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file:///C:/Users/rimol/Downloads/Native%20type%20collagen%20SDS-PAGE.pdf
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how many bands does BSA give in sds page?
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You will get single specific band at around 66 KDa. other non specific band may be present , depends on the purity of the BSA sample.
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Hello,
I am using the costar gel loading tips round 4853 and an eppendorf pipette (100 µl) to load my gels. The volume of my samples is 25 µl. Before loading, I usually set my eppendorf pipette to 25 µl and use the gel loading tips as mentioned above. But everytime I get air bubbles in my tips that result non-optimal western blots.
Do you have any tips/ideas how to avoid air bubbles in the tips?
What I've already tried:
I resuspend the tip to remove the air bubbles but in most cases the resuspending process results in more bubbles.
I pull the pipette slowly to avoid capture any air, but still isn't working.
I readjusted the volume of the pipette to 23,5 µl to set a lower volume to avoid sucking excess air, but then I lose sample since a small amount is still in the tube. So that doesn't work either.
I am thankful for any help and tips!
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Because samples containing detergent tends to stick to the inside of the pipet tip, if you set the pipettor volume equal to the sample volume, you will always expel air at the end of the dispense.
Also, if the samples were heated, some of the water will have evaporated and be located at the top of the tube, lowering the sample volume. Centrifuge the samples after heating and allowing them to cool to room temperature to return the evaporated water to the sample.
Set the pipettor volume to a few microliters less than the sample volume to allow for the small portion of the sample that remains stuck to the pipet tip. Release the sample slowly into the well to allow time for most of the sample to drain off the sides of the pipet tip. Do not push the plunger to the bottom stop - stop pushing out the sample when the last of it has left the pipet tip.
This approach is easier when using a 20-µl pipettor than a 100-µl pipettor because the spring on a 20-µl pipettor plunger is not as strong. Reducing the sample volume from 25 µl to 20 µl will allow you to use a 20-µl pipettor to dispense the samples into the wells, and this will give you greater control over the dispensing.
Finally, if you allow the sample to fall into the well slowly from above, due to its greater density than the buffer (because of the glycerol), instead of placing the pipet tip near the bottom of the well, if a bubble if air is accidentally dispensed, it will not disturb the already-dispensed sample very much and will just float to the top without causing any trouble.
After all the effort that went into making the samples in the first place, spending a little extra time loading them onto the gel carefully is worthwhile.
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This is an SDS-PAGE silver stained gel. The sample is from an FPLC fractions mixed with sample buffer (has SDS and DTT). I'm not sure why the lane has darker edges all the way through (vertically). Would anyone know what is causing this? Could this be from overloading the wells?
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Looks more like a voltage issue during running, sometimes I have observed such band when the buffer in the inner tank leaked out resulting in improper electric field throughout the run. When lanes get overload you would not see such clean sharp bands for the low intensity proteins and it would be a whole merged lane.
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I have cloned a gene in pET28a vector, and induced it for 5 hrs with 1mM IPTG. The cells were centrifuged from 1 ml culture (Uninduced and induced both), and the pellet was suspended in 200 microlitres 2X SDS loading dye and kept at -20 overnight for further use.
The next day, run on 12% SDS PAGE, on staining induced band was visible.
To have a better image, the same protein was run again on 12% SDA PAGE, the induced band disappeared.
pls suggest, how to stabilize induced protein.
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Hi, it is hard to nail down the reasons because you did not purify your protein. When you resuspend with 2X SDS solution, this should denature all the proteins in the solution (such as protease enzymes) so that no enzymatic degradation will occur. You could not mix your sample well when you repeated the run. Try to boil your sample for 5 minutes when you add the SDS, and keep the rest at -20 for further use. Also, try to purify your protein and study its stability at different temperatures and buffers.
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Hi everyone
Looking for some suggestions on bench top protein analyzers for titer determination. Currently using SDS-Page which is time consuming and allows for a large amount of operator error. I have previously used CEDEX Bio/Bio HT but and looking for something with a similar IgG titer determination functioning. Looking for something that has a small footprint and is relatively 'quick' to run titer analysis on centrifuged cell culture samples (Hybridoma, CHO). HPLC and other LC analyzers also not an option.
If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
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Dear J. Cl
OCTET (BLI approach) is certanilly an possible powerfull method, fast and reilable.
of course it is quite expensive apparatus that can be used also for other purpose (eg. affinity determination of purified nabs and self aggregation propensity evaluation of the purified mabs)
the size and throughput of the instrument depends from the number of channel (from 2 to 96). i had the opportunity to work with the 8 channel and i think that at least the 4 channel version is necessary.
to my knowledge there are also other immonoassay tecnologies as the Gyrolab platform
that can do the same work but also in this case are quite expensive methods.
SDS-page and UV quantification of protA/protG purified mab in small scale (eg purification of 2ml surnatant with 100ul of resin by gravity or vacum manifold) are the cherape alternativelly but are of course applicable only in a limited number or samples in parallel 10-20 not 100.
Capillary elettrophoresis may be an more quantitativa alternative to SDS-page, but since the instument is quite expensive, i prefer the OCTET approach which may allow to you to perform many other things.
good luck
Manuele
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I would like to measure the protein concentration using the Bradford assay. To do this I have to resuspend the isolated protein pellet in the sample buffer. However, at this stage, I do not have ampholyte reagent to make the rehydration buffer (I do have Urea, DTT, CHAPS and Bromophenol Blue). After this, I want to rehydrate the IEF gel strips as the first dimension gel and then run 2nd dimension gel. I am wondering if missing ampholyte in the rehydration buffer will considerably affect the result. How important is the role of ampholyte?
Any suggestions and comments would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi there, this is the reason this kit (see below) was invested. It is compatible with almost any buffer.
I hope it helps!
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Dear all,
I was trying to see what is going on with my commercial protein sample so I ran SDS PAGE to check. However, I have no idea what is going on with lane 5&6 (they're almost the same sample). I'm looking forward to seeing all the insights from you!
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Your protein concentration is high. Also, are you using the appropriate gel %? You might be using a low % gel for a low mol wt protein.
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I ran out of Bromophenol Blue that is given in the standard recepie of Laemmli Buffer by CSH, now what concentration should I take Commassie Brilliant Blue G-250 as an alternative, should I take it the same concentration as Bromophenol Blue?
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The concentration of Coomassie Brilliant Blue G-250 (CBB G-250) in Laemmli Buffer for SDS-PAGE can vary depending on the specific protocol and desired staining intensity. However, a commonly used concentration is around 0.025% to 0.05% (w/v). It's advisable to start with a lower concentration and optimize based on your specific needs. Keep in mind that the optimal concentration might also be affected by factors like the protein samples being analyzed and the type of gel system used.
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This is the used protocol:
•Spin down an aliquot of Amyloid 42 HFIP** (~ 5 mg/ml), then 1 µL of Amyloid 42 was diluted in 20 µL PBS.
•5 µL of 4x Laemmli protein sample buffer for SDS-PAGE was added. The sample was boiled to 95 degrees for 5 minutes. Then, short spin down.
•Then, the sample was run along the ladder (BLUeye PrestainedProtein Ladder) in 4–20% precast polyacrylamide gel, 8.6 × 6.7 cm (W × L), for use with Mini-PROTEAN Electrophoresis Cells.
•The gel was stained with Quick Coomassie Stain for 1 hr.
•Lastly, the gel was scanned.
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Hello Hana.
What about the ladder? Do you have ladder bands or no bands at all?
If you don't have any bands for the ladder nor the the sample so that means you have a problem with the run itself.
If you have ladder bands but no sample bands so i'd suggest you increase the staining period maybe to one and a half or two hours.
Also if you have ladder bands but no sample bands even with extended staining so i believe the the extraction of the protein wasn't successful.
If you have any questions, I'd be happy to help.
Good luck
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I use gel 16.5%, 120V, 10 µL sample. Thank you
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The key thing here is the buffer composition of the sample. The gel pattern is suggestive of extremely high salt concentration, though other causes are possible. It is clear that you have a pure protein and you are loading far too much material. 1ul, or 2ul at most is needed, and this will naturally reduce the salt conc or conc of other interfering substances.
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I have been observing double bands for protein molecular marker(especially 15 kDa band) every time I am doing SDS-PAGE. Sometimes even the samples appear to have a double band. These are 12.5% handmade gels and sample running voltage is 160 V. Can anyone suggest how to resolve this issue.
Thank you for your answers.
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Thank you all for the valuable suggestions.
Meera J. Patel I haven't tried the titration or the gradient gel approach as I just need to check the purity of the sample before moving on to the next step of the experiments. To answer your third point; Yes, I too had the same thing in mind. So I ordered a new ladder; but I am still getting the double band.
Sara Kishta Mohamed The size of the protein of interest is ~14 kDa. So, I and not using low % gels. But, Yes I will probably try lower volt to Run the gels.
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I am trying to dimerize a synthetic peptide (22 amino acids) with a N-terminal cysteine, that was added for this purpose. I use the BM-(PEG)3 crosslinker from Thermo Fisher, which is based on maleimide-thiol chemistry. I reduce the sulfhydryl-bonds using TCEP, add the linker and stop the reaction with DTT. All according to the instructions provided by Thermo Fisher. I check the results with an SDS PAGE, but so far the protein bands stay on the same height before and after the reaction. I tried to get a positive control with insulin, lysozyme and murine SAA, but only the SAA shows a very faint band that could be a dimer.
Has anyone used this linker successfully or has any tips on how to get the reaction working?
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Yes, your ratio is suboptimal on theoretical grounds. I don’t think there is much wrong with the pH at 7.4, but the reaction will still work at lower pH values. Whatever pH is used, you do need the peptide in molar excess over the maleimide functions to get the desired product in high yield. A better approach than manipulating pH to stop the N-terminal amine from triggering the side reaction is simply to block the amine.
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stacking gel 5%,running gel 8%
first band includes catalase(400KDa) and glucose oxidase(160KDa) , small molecular crosslinker(MW<1000) is used ,but no aggregates showed in this band(should have been above than most other bands),why the band below showed like dumbbell-shaped?
for other bands, is the concentration of protein too high because the color of bands is deep and bands are long? why it showed a funnelform?
could any beautiful people help me out of this, I would be so appreciated of your kind answers. your advice is of great help for me as a beginner. Thanks for help!
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Venketsubbu Ramasubbu thank you so much, extremely thank you for answer
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MAP Tau, htau40, 2N4R, has the actual weight of 45 kDa but runs as 67 kDa on SDS-PAGE. What can explain this much weight difference?
Is it specifically about Tau's unique structure effecting charge, or possible post translational modifications?
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I haven't worked with tau, but I know it contains lots of lysine. As SDS PAGE is based on movement of proteins due to negative charge, it seems possible the large positive charge may reduce migration.
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Hello everyone,
I'm having some conceptual misunderstandings regarding non-reducing SDS-PAGE. In this situation, we omit reducing agents such DTT or BME from the loading buffer to preserve disulphide bonds in the proteins' structure. However, in every protocol i've seen, SDS is present and sample heating is still performed. Wouldn't this result in disrupting the disulphide bridges, since we are still denaturing the samples? I know that disulphide bonds are more heat resistant than hydrogen bonds (since they are covalent bonds) and that heating in the presence of reducing agents is only done to facilitate the disruption of those bonds. But I couldn't understand if high temperature alone is sufficient or not to break these linkages.
Thank you kindly for your attention.
Best regards,
Miguel
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Disulfide bonds should be stable to heating in the absence of reducing agent.
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Hi! I'ts one of the first times i run SDS page for proteins and i got this result. what could be wrong? i attach a picture.
thank you in advance!
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Hi Evi and Hasnat,
Firstly , please mentioned/mark your protein size. You can use Bio-Rad SDS gel recipe. Use fresh SDS running buffer .Check the pH of Separating and stacking buffer, It should be 8.8 and 6.8 respectively.
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I have my construcsee a band at the correct molecular weight but nott in pGT7 plasmid, transformed into BL21AI when I do a test expression and check on SDS-PAGE I don't see a thick expression band. I do see a band at the correct molecular weight but I don't see the protein after purification on gel. am also getting micromolar concentrations in the end. am starting to think the problem could be in expression. my conditions are 16degrees overnight after induction with 0.04% and have also tried 0.1% and 0.01% with similar results. KIndly help.
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I only ran a denatured gel of the samples after induction, I will try include the control and see if it my protein. I was lysing at 15sec on 15sec off pulse 70% amplitude for 5 to 10 minutes. I also have tried chemical lysis Bper reagent and other sonication protocolsis . I have tried ion exchange where I still see the band but when I try IMAC I don't see it after desalting. I am suspecting the yield is too low. am getting below 0.5mg/ml when I measure the concentration after desalting.
Xi Jiang Thank you fir your suggestions, No I didn't run a western blot yet, I will try the negative control. I did sequence the plasmid and ascertained that the genes were present.
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I did this SDS PAGE GEL and my results are not precise or improving.
can someone guide me through the trouble?
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Hi Hasnat,
You are overloading your gels, that is why the protein profile of the samples you have loaded look like this. Load less amount of extract (I would say 1/3). Also, the horizontal lines you are observing across the gel, if I am not wrong, comes from contamination of your reagents to prepare gels. If any buffer/acrylamide is contaminated with keratin from our skin or just protein contamination from mishandling, it will appear like this in your gel. I would make new stock reagents to prepare gels.
What is the size of the protein of your interest? Prepare your gels with appropriate acrylamide concentration to see your protein properly. I don't know if your protein of interest is the band that is at the bottom of the gel, then raise the acrylamide concentration so smaller proteins are better resolved.
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I am currently studying the expression of the TEV protease recombinant protein, and unfortunately, I have encountered a somewhat illogical problem during my work. I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me based on your experience and knowledge.
One of my colleague’s previously used the soluble fusion tag “GST” for expressing the TEV protein. In their design, they were able to express TEV/GST protein in SHuffle strain by using the pBAD A series vector under araBAD promoter and ori: p15A.
However, the protein was totally expressed into inclusion body. In order to optimize that project, we decided to use the previous backbone, however with an alternative tag based on an article by Dr. Yutaka Kuroda entitled " A SEP tag enhances the expression, solubility and yield of recombinant TEV protease without altering its activity " Consequently, GST fusion tag was replaced with SEP tag, incorporated in C-terminal. This article claimed that this tag significantly enhances the solubility of the TEV protein.
It should be noted that Dr. Kuroda used the pET15b vector under T7 promoter in their design.
After changing the solubility fusion tag, the integrity of the target fragment was confirmed by Sanger sequencing. In spite of the confirmation of critical elements within the expression vector, no protein was expressed in Shuffle (induced by Arabinose at 30 and 16 C for 4 and 18 h, respectively), even into inclusion body forms. I have included the gel images of my colleague's vector and my own below for your reference. (The expected size of TEV/SEP is ~ 29 kDa, while GST/TEV is approximately ~58 kDa.)
Furthermore, since we don't need to purify the TEV protein in my project, this protein is not fused to His- tag.
the important question for us at this moment is the lack of protein expression by the vector.
Can you please help me why we have not any band in our SDS-page gel of our recombinant protein?
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One more thing is using regular BL21(DE3) or BL21(De3)pLysS instead of SHuffle T7 may be helpful also. My experience with TEV protease expression work indicated that regular BL21(DE3) is good enough for protein expression.
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Hello everybody,
I purified my protein and when I run it on SDS-PAGE, a small molecular weight sized band (10 kDa) appears. Do you have any idea what that could be?
an image of the SDS-PAGE is attached.
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Thanks Sheethal for your Answer.
To be clear, the bigger molecular weight band is my protein of interest ( my protein) and my question is about the small molecular weight band ( the 10kDa band).
I have repeated the production and the purificarion several times and I got this band with this protein !!
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RIPA buffer was used for protein extraction from rat liver samples. After calculating the protein content of the homogenate through Bradford assay (BSA), 5-30 ug of protein was loaded to 12% SDS-PAGE. Then the protein bands were transferred through the wet-transfer method followed by the blocking buffer [1 % BSA (Himedia) in 1X PBS for 1 hrs], followed by washing thrice for a period of 10 min, later adding primary antibody (overnight) and again same washing step followed by secondary antibody (1.5 hrs). The antibody we ran for was β-actin with anti-mice specificity. Since the protein ladder transferred quite well on the blot, we arent speculating on the transfer issue and also ponceau proves the same (visible after stain). In addition, we did a dot blot, checking the affinity of the antibody. Bands are also visible with CBB stain on the gel. Still we arent getting it on the blot. Please suggest a solution to this. Thank you!
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Hi Divya,
I would also reccomend to take care of the steps as Tehreem Maradagi mentioned.
No bands can also arise due to many reasons related to antibody, antigen, or buffer used. If an improper antibody is used, either primary or secondary, the band will not show. In addition, the concentration of the antibody should be appropriate as well; if the concentration is too low, the signal may not be visible.
Another reason for no visible bands is the lowest concentration or absence of the antigen. In this case, antigen from another source can be used to confirm whether the problem lies with the sample or with other elements, such as the antibody. Moreover, prolonged washing can also decrease the signal. Buffers can also contribute to the problem. It should be ensured that buffers like the transfer buffer, TBST, running buffer and ECL are all new and noncontaminated. If the buffers are contaminated with sodium azide, it can inactivate HRP.
It is also important to use a shaker for all incubation, so that there is no uneven agitation during the incubation. Once again, washing is of utmost importance as well to wash the background. This problem can also be caused by antibodies binding to the blocking agents; in this case another blocking agent should be tried. Filtering the blocking agent can also help to remove some contaminants.
Good luck with your experiments.
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After immunoprecipitation with specific antibody and Protein G, samples were eluted with elution buffer, SDS sample buffer, and reducing agent at 70 °C for 5 minutes. Also, samples were incubated at 95 °C for 10 minutes before loading on SDS-PAGE.
The bubbles did not exist in the gel, and the replicate experiment shows the same result.
This is confusing because the left lane is a negative control, and the right lane is a positive control that should show immunoprecipitated protein.
Is it an protein aggregation?
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Hi there,
Coomassie staining might not be sensitive enough.
You may need to go to WB.
The bands you have might just be antibody HC and LC...
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I am trying to check a purified recombinant protein on SDS PAGE coomasie Blue and silver staining. Before SDS PAGE, I have checked the total protein concentration using lowry and it shows good amount of concentration. But when I run it on SDS PAGE the coomasie blue stain does not show any bands, while the silver staining one shows only 2 bands. I also check the cell lysate before purification but it shows the same result as the purified lane, only 2 bands and not on the desired MW band. How can I resolve the problem? Thank you in advance for your responses.
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Based on your protein estimate, you should have no trouble seeing bands even with Coomassie stain. I would look again at the Lowry assay data, which I think is giving you a misleading value for concentration.
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When I'm running SDS-PAGE 12%, my sample moves to the other well (it's formed as a small curve with the following well) , even if I put it slowly,carefully, 15ul per well and I'm using a 1mm glass. I think it may be the sample buffer i use, it is dense. I look forward to your recommendations.
Sample buffer recipe (5x):
For 1ml:
- Tris (1M, pH 6.8) 0.25ml
- SDS 0.1 g
-Bromophenol blue 0.005 g
-Glycerol 99.5% 0.502 ml
- H2OMiliQ 0.25 ml
I use sample Buffer 1X
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The density of the sample should be greater than the density of the solution in the well, so that the sample sinks when dispensed. Rincse out the wells with the upper chamber buffer before loading the samples, as suggested by Paul Rutland . If that isn't sufficient to solve the problem, make a denser sample buffer by increasing the concentration of glycerol.
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I have performed SDS-PAGE using precast Bis-Tris gels and MOPS running buffer. The bands of my reduced samples are always very weak compared to the non-reduced samples. I loaded 2ug for each sample. Does anyone have any idea why?
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Yes, exactly that.
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I am currently trying to express Turritopsis dhornii TET enzyme with a 6x HIS tag in a BL21 E.coli host. Every time I purify my protein it shows double bands on SDS-PAGE, when testing its activity on ELISA there seems to be no activity. My lysis buffer contains 50mM HEPES ph 7.5, 30 mM imidazole, 500mM NaCl, and 1mM DTT. I purify with 800uL of Nickel Sepharose beads. Are there any adjustments I could make to stop this double band from showing?
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It could be an indication that your protein is suffering proteolysis during purification. Include a protease inhibitor cocktail in the extraction buffer, and keep everything cold during purification.
It's also possible that the bands you see are not the protein of interest, but are just some non-specific proteins that stuck to the Ni beads. The protein may not have been expressed, or it may have been expressed in an aggregated or insoluble form that does not bind to Ni resin.
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Hello everyone!
In a SDS-PAGE, what is the more effective way to separate high molecular weight protein st (>300 kda) and get a good resolution at the end? I am using Tris-acetate 4-8% gel and MOPS Tis acetate running buffer to run the gel. Could anyone suggest what voltage should I use? Is the voltage should be separate for stacking and separating gel and for how long? I am using semi-Dry Bio-rad transfer system, Is 10 min transfer would be enough with high mol. wt. settings?
Thanks :)
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Yes, I have done Coomassie brilliant blue staining of gel before and after transfer. Some high molecular wt proteins are there after transfer (10 min at 25V bio rad semitransfer). I will try as you have suggested. Thanks for the suggestion. I really appreciate it.
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hi everyone... i am working on bovine collagen protein but i am not getting proper bands in SDS PAGE. please give me some suggestion . thanks.
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SDS-PAGE is used to separate the particles in the mixture, under the influence of the electric field applied to it.
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"Visualization of proteins in SDS-PAGE gels
The two most commonly used methods are Coomassie and silver staining. Silver staining is a more sensitive staining method than Coomassie staining, and is able to detect 2–5 ng protein per band on a gel."
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When I load a protein sample, the sample drifts up the sides of the sample well.My Running Buffer is Tris-Tricine-Hepes system.And the sample strip will become U-shaped after starting to run.
Buffer component:
100mM Hepes
100mM Tris
100mM Tricine
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That focussing of the sample towards the centre of the well can happen with samples containing too much salt. It might be interesting to see the result of loading half and quarter amounts of a sample of any dna sample in your loading dye in a future gel. Also be sure to thoroughly mix the sample and sample loading buffer before loading on the gel
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I expressed and purified a recombinant human enamelin protein in bacteria and I wrote a protocol/recipe on how I did it. I also have an SDS-PAGE showing the final purified product. I was wondering to which journal could I submit the manuscript ?
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Stephan Spangenberg Thank you for your answer :) I will look into it.
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I am currently working on a thermostable polymerase which I am overexpressing in the BL21(DE3) strain. The polymerase has a histag at the N-terminus. However, during purification, I am not obtaining a single band but rather several bands of different molecular weights ranging from 5-85 kDa. The expected molecular weight of my polymerase is 92 kDa. The additional bands observed on the SDS-PAGE gel after purification on TALON or AKTA systems, some appear to have the histag (confirmed by westernblott). I have attempted to optimize the purification conditions by adjusting buffers, using protease cocktails, DMSO, Betaine, low induction temperatures with longer time, shorter time of induction, and optimised times and amplitude of sonication, but none of these measures have yielded the desired results. Do you have any suggestion what should I try?
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Have you optimized the codons for E. coli?
E. coli produces tRNA to some codons in preference to others, and this can cause translation to terminate early if it runs into a codon that it makes in low abundance. The easiest solution is to use an E. coli strain like Rosetta from Novagen, which boosts the production of rare codons.
Alternatively, you can move the His-tag to the C-terminus so that only fully translated proteins can be purified.
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I have prepared 12% of SDS gel and a sample concentration that needs to load 24 ul in each lane to fulfill the requirement of 4uM protein concentration and the maximum volume of the lane is 20 ul. I have also prepared 2X sample loading dye. How much loading dye should I add to the sample so that it will work?
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If you have 2x loading dye you need to mix the protein sample and dye in a 1:1 ratio.
As an aside, I must have run about a thousand gels or more and I’ve never before come across a “4uM requirement”. The amount of sample you load will depend on sample purity, and usually you would consider ug of protein rather than its concentration. If you have a pure protein, about 1-2ug of protein is loaded (though it depends on the size of the gel). A crude extract with multiple bands may require 10x as much, thus I do not see how a fixed 4uM requirement could work. Just measure your protein, which will typically give you a ug/ml value, and then work out what vol of sample is needed per track to give the required number of micrograms.
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Molecular weight of my protein of interest is 7KDa. I am not able to get this on 18% SDS-PAGE electrophoresis. I want to do western blotting of my samples having this. Kindly suggest the method to separate the low molecular wt protein and western blotting of it.
Thank you
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A huge bubble forms in the gel during running as you can see in the photo. This was occured after 1 hour it started to run. The bubbles looks like a second line in the gel. Why does that occur and how can i fix it?
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I recommend that you always prepare the running buffer fresh. You can also check the pH values of the buffers and maybe you check your Tris-glycine. Good luck :)