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Identification of proteins or peptides that have been electrophoretically separated by blot transferring from the electrophoresis gel to strips of nitrocellulose paper, followed by labeling with antibody probes.
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I am having an issue with the western blot transfer from last week, I see imprints of cassette on my membrane.
I am making a 14% gel and I run transfer for 2hr at 100V, after the transfer I see imprints of cassettes on the membrane.
I thought it could be because of the cassette was too tight or because of the temperature. So I keep in check for the cassette and temperature (1hr 45min) and repeated the western I see the same problem.
I used fresh buffers both the times.
Any suggestions how can I improve?
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Hello Thamizhiniyan, I used more blotting paper. I used 3 paper up and 3 down to make a western blot sandwich and also I kept cold ice packs in the transfer tank during the transfer process. I hope it helps.
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Hello! I am currently running a western blot using human AD tissue samples. I prepared these samples over a year and a half ago. I am having trouble standardizing these proteins with Beta Actin. I have ruled out other parameters that could be causing the problem. Therefore, I am wondering if my tissue samples are no longer reliable. In addition to this, I noticed that when i thaw my samples, there is a good amount of precipitation. I just vortex and spin down to mix the samples thoroughly.
For my results, I keep seeing bands stuck in the wells and multiple faded bands. Of course when I first ran these proteins, the beta actin signal was clean and neat.
If someone could please elaborate on what could be causing this. In addition, I would appreciate if you could provide how long samples last and if there is a way to troubleshoot this.
Thank you!
P.S. Samples have been stored in -20 C fridge.
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For long term storage even at -20°C, I use glycerol to maintain the solubility and compactness of the protein. I get clear bands even after 6 months of storage.
You detected precipitation after storage, which I think might be resulted from the loss of proteins stability during storage. I hope it will be helpful for you.
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Dear Community, I recently performed a Western Blot to test whether the mitochondria marker ATP5A1 is in the experimental cells or not. However, the results did not show up at the expected MW . I would like to ask what happens in this case and my sample 1 even didn't have band with beta-actin marker? Would you like to give me some advice ?Thank you so much .
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Hi Phung! I would suggest using this link on biorad western blot troubleshooting. I have not had the exact same experience. However, when I need to troubleshoot my western blot I always use this link.
In addition, I recently have had trouble with Beta-actin as my housekeeping gene. It was not working well with my protein samples. Therefore, my postdoc suggested using GAPDH (cell signaling) as an alternative antibody. thankfully, using GAPDH worked with my samples and allowed for me to observe even bands. I hope this information will be useful. Good luck!
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I am performing western blot and recently i have been obtaining faint bands for the samples i had already run and had got darker bands. I wish to determine the concentration of protein in those samples, but they are now gel-ready (loaded in laemmlli buffer). can anyone please suggest a way.
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It's difficult because of the presence of substances that interfere with protein assays (detergent, reducing agent, dye). The approach I would take would be to run the samples on SDS-PAGE, transfer the gel to the Western membrane, stain it temporarily with Ponceau S, and photograph the stain in white light with a gel documentation instrument. Then you can integrate the density of all the bands in each lane as if they were a single band. Then you can destain the membrane and use it for immunoblotting.
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I'm now doing western blotting for several proteins.
but transfer is not perfectly happened.
bands are looks like smeared or smudged.
And it seems to the lower MW bands are more affected.
what did I do wrong?
I use towbin buffer without SDS / PVDF 0.2um pore / biorad wet blot tank transfer system / during transfer, use stirring and ice block with 400mA (about 200~100V)
Also, when I performed with 20V overnight same thing happened.
I attached picture of my transferred membrane
when I stained membrane with Ponceau S solution, other protein bands looks same as marker band.
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Hi Kim,
Was the problem only cassettes?
Best,
Arad
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I would like to know if anyone tried the western blot with the Instant Blue stained SDS-PAGE gels. Thanks.
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Manuele Martinelli I think, Blue dye doesn't interfere much with the antibody binding. I have done western blotting from Blue native gels (non-fixed gel) several times and it worked fine.
Here, the problem is protein precipitation and fixation as Didier Poncet mentioned.
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Hello, I have isolated extracellular vesicles from a cell culture using the Exosome isolation kit. However, the western blot results did not show up because the concentration was only 0.2 ug/ul. I believe a concentration of 1 ug/ul is required for a successful western blot. Could you please suggest a method to increase the concentration?
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Without knowing which cell culture and exosome are the target, it is known that exosome isolation kits are developed aiming to capturing by antibodies raised against the surface proteins of exosomes. It is also well known that isolation kits may miss some types of extracellular vesicles due to the lack of some surface proteins in exosomes. This could be the reason for the low recovery and sample composition may also prevent some affinity binding between antibody and surface targets (considering the cell culture medium is the sample, lysis was not applied and the supernatant was collected). I prefer physical techniques such as ultrafiltration enriched medium subjected to ultracentrifugation by density cushion, or SEC. Exosome isolation kits are a bit error-prone approach depending on the type of cell and exosome to investigate but physical ones are universal to apply.
Good luck
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I am researching beauvericin, one of the toxin proteins commonly produced by the entomopathogenic fungus Beauveria bassiana. In my research, I plan to use the Western blot method to confirm the presence of beauvericin toxin protein in the fungal filtrate. But I'm having trouble knowing what antibodies to use to detect the presence of beauvericin.
Can someone share their knowledge or experience?
thankyou
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Hello Everyone.
I have samples that significantly vary in protein concentrations. can I load equal volumes of samples that have different protein concentrations on basis that later on I will normalize the target protein to the housekeeping protein?
Please I would be grateful if you advise.
Thank you
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Thank you Mr. Aaron and Thank you Ms. Sabine.
I am appreciative for your reply.But could you Mr. Aaron clarify more your point regarding the detection limit?
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In my study utilizing anti-Flag antibody to detect a Flag-tagged protein in HepG2 cell line via Western blotting, I have observed multiple bands beyond the expected molecular weight. I seek guidance regarding the potential origin of these additional bands. Could they represent dimerization/oligomerization events manifesting as higher bands, or degradation products yielding lower bands?
How can I substantiate these observations, particularly considering the presumed specificity conferred by the Flag tag?
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Lower molecular weight bands could be proteolytic fragments, of course. Higher molecular weight bands could be due to varying degrees of glycosylation. As a test, can you use one or more antibodies that detect the protein of interest rather than the tag?
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The truth is that I have had many, many problems to be able to see a specific band of this protein. My problems have ranged from bad transfers, to unknowns that I have not been able to answer. The times I have a good transfer (see image of ponceau s #1), I still fail to see defined bands once developed (see failed attemps). I have tried everything, increasing the concentration of the primary antibody, secondary, using more West Dura, cooling the transfer buffers to avoid burning (see ponceau s #2) and still nothing. Does anyone have any idea what else I could try? Thank you all very much in advance.
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Hi Diego,
large proteins tend to precipitate in gels and can't do so in the presence of SDS as Dr. Strehl mentioned. Also, I prefer wet transfer for everything. You can use 20V for overnight or 70 volts for 2-3 hrs using BioRad transfer tanks.
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Hi!
I´m currently trying to isolate Mitochondria from HCM cells. For my western blots I need an additional antibody against a mitochondrial protein which is bigger or smaller than 14/17 kDa.
I was thinking of a protein which is only present in mitochondria or in the matrix. Maybe transmembrane proteins (TOM or TIM) will work too, but I don't know if the membranes are still intact in my samples. Maybe proteins from the ß-oxidation? Does someone know which antibodies can be used to detect mitochondrial proteins in western blots? If possible only proteins/Abs that are located/synthesized in the mitochondria (matrix). Thanks a lot!
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To detect mitochondria in Western blots, you typically use antibodies targeting proteins specific to mitochondria. Here are some commonly used antibodies for detecting mitochondria:
  1. Mitochondrial Marker Antibodies: Mitochondrial membrane proteins: Antibodies against proteins located in the mitochondrial outer membrane (e.g., Tom20, Tom22) or inner membrane (e.g., Tim23, CoxIV). Mitochondrial matrix proteins: Antibodies against proteins localized within the mitochondrial matrix (e.g., Hsp60, Citrate Synthase).
  2. Mitochondrial Respiratory Chain Complex Antibodies: Antibodies targeting subunits of mitochondrial respiratory chain complexes (Complexes I-V). For example, antibodies against subunits of Complex I (e.g., NDUFA9), Complex II (e.g., SDHA), Complex III (e.g., UQCRC2), Complex IV (e.g., COXIV), and Complex V (e.g., ATP5A1).
  3. Mitochondrial Transporter Proteins: Antibodies against proteins involved in mitochondrial transport processes, such as the mitochondrial ATP/ADP translocase (ANT), the voltage-dependent anion channel (VDAC), or the mitochondrial calcium uniporter (MCU).
  4. Mitochondrial Fission/Fusion Proteins: Antibodies against proteins involved in mitochondrial dynamics, such as dynamin-related protein 1 (Drp1) for fission or mitofusins (Mfn1 and Mfn2) for fusion.
  5. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) Antibodies: Antibodies targeting mitochondrial DNA-encoded proteins, such as cytochrome c oxidase subunit I (COI) or cytochrome b (Cytb)...When selecting antibodies for mitochondrial detection in Western blots, consider factors such as antibody specificity, sensitivity, and validation in the context of your experimental system. Additionally, it's essential to include appropriate controls and validate antibody specificity through techniques like immunofluorescence, immunocytochemistry, or knockout/knockdown experiments if available.
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I am running SDS-Page western blot using 10% acrylamide gels. However, my samples are not migrating more than 55 kDa. The bands are not defined. I am using 4x Laemmli buffer with LDS from Biorad. The cell lysates are human whole brain lysates. I am wondering if the LDS has something to do with this? I tried to boil the samples at 95 degrees for 5 min; heat at 70 degrees for 10 min, all did not work.
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The problem was with the Human Brain Whole Tissue Lysate (Adult Whole Normal), novus. When compared with colorectal cell lysate, this difference was obvious. Thank you all for your comments.
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We received a limited amount of an antiserum antibody as a gift from another lab and are trying to avoid having to purify it. Our initial titration blot with blocking in 5% milk successfully detected the target protein, but encountered significant non-specific binding likely from high albumin-IgG in the serum.
Would using BSA for blocking decrease the non-specific binding, or could it exacerbate the issue due to additional albumin from the BSA? We have never performed westerns with unpurified antiserum antibodies before so any help or tips would be appreciated!
Edit: This is NOT a phospho-specific antibody
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I think nonfat dry milk milk and BSA (1-5% each) work equally well as blocking agents for Western blots. Milk is much less expensive than BSA. Use the name brand (Carnation) if it's available.
I'm not sure what you mean by "additional albumin from the BSA." BSA is albumin. The blocking agent in milk is casein. You can also by protein-free blocking agents, which are expensive but useful when you are using strepatividin-based detection, since biological blocking agents can contain biotin.
A good way to remove unwanted immunoglobulins when you only have a little antiserum is to affinity purify on a micro scale. Preincubate a small amount of the antiserum with a sample containing the unwanted antigens but not the desired antigen, if such a sample is available or can be prepared.
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After treating my membrane with the primary antibody, the destaining buffer was accidentally used instead of tbst buffer. Immediately after use (about 3 seconds later) it was replaced with tbst buffer (10 minutes, 4 times wash), will it affect the antibody signal? The composition of the destaining buffer is acetic acid, methanol, and 3dw.
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I would expect exposure to destain solution (methanol/acetic acid), even for a short time, to negatively effect the interaction of the primary antibody with the antigen for 2 reasons: the organic solvent will have a denaturing effect on the antibody, and the acidity will interfere with antibody binding (low pH is used to elute antibodies from antigen affinity columns and vice versa). The brief duration of the exposure (3 seconds) may mitigate these effects to some extent, however.
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I've done several experiments using western blotting to detect extracellular vesicle markers TSG101 and CD9. However, I consistently observe bands that are larger than the expected size. Notably, my lysate shows the correct band size, but the samples consistently display larger band sizes despite the use of a reducing agent. I've used 1% SDS lysis buffer along with protease inhibitor for sample preparation, and I also attempted using RIPA buffer. Interestingly, the bands only appeared when SDS was used, but they differed in size compared to the expected bands. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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PTMs e.g. glycosylation?
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Greetings to all, I have attempted to detect pERK using western blotting with HEK 293T cells, but I am unable to do so. I overexpressed a gene that caused pERK to be overproduced, and I was expecting to see and detect pERK, but that did not occur. In addition to making sure the cell lysis procedure is working as best it can, I have replaced all of the buffers and meticulously completed everything else. Could someone please let me know if they have encountered this issue and how they resolved it? Many thanks in advance!
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It is not feasible to overexpress, but discussing the activation of pERK is an option. Visualization may have been hindered due to the lack of specificity of the antibody employed, particularly in the HEK 293T cell line.
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The lanes contain the same sample and concentration (15ug). The image contains GluN2A, PSD95, and Beta Actin (Top, middle, bottom respectively). Due to this being the same sample every lane should theoretically be the same but the only one close to being the same is Beta Actin. GluN2A and PSD95 seem to be following the same pattern.
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Overnight for 16 hours in 4 degrees and saran wrapped. I reproped the blot with GABA as well and those bands came out even.
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Hello everyone, I'm a master student and in my project I'm studying RFP-based constructs (RFP + few amino acid-long tags). I'm now performing a Western blot in SDS-PAGE of my cell-line lysates.
My western blots (as the photo shows) have a problem in the Ponceau staining as the marker is fairly visible and correctly transferred, however my sample lanes show little to no protein (I've loaded 50 ug), especially in the second half of the blot. The same problem is present also with other types of samples (like whole cell lysates) and seen in some of my collegues' blots.
I've tried make a new batch of sample buffer (+ B-mercaptoethanol), new acrillamide (gel is usually 10%) and new transfer protocol (10 minutes, 25V).
Another weird thing I've seen is that incubating an antibody (any kind really, I've tried B-actin), the signal is confined in the area of the blot that corresponds to where the stacking gel meets the running gel.
I thank whoever offers suggestions.
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I've finally figured out the answer: the problem was in the electrophoresis equipment: the buffer was leaking and therefore the gel wasn't fully covered. I write this down in case other people have a similar problem, to check this I had to keep an eye on the mAmpere of the machinery (lower than 35 mA but higher than 20 mA).
I thank everyone who has been interested.
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Hello. TetraHis antibodies recognise 4xHis-tag in the protein. What if I have a long His-tag (e.g. 10xHis-tag) and I perform ELISA or Western Blot based on native PAGE? Is there a chance that two TetraHis antibodies will sometimes bind to the long His tag and I'll get a false signal increase? Or is the potential distance between the antibodies too small and therefore after the first molecule has bound, the second molecule won't be able to approach the His-Tag, and it will be always 1 binding per 1 protein?
I started to think about it because the manufacturers of precoated well plates indicate the amount of histidines in the tag of the target protein. Is it possible that they imply potential overbinding?
Thanks.
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Hello, on my oppinion, if you are only working with that "long"Histag protein, is not relevant how manny antibodies are allowed to bind to the tag, because they are to bind the same amount (mean) to each singular protein.
You have to realized that your are not working with 1 single protein molecule, you have thousands units of your protein, so what you are measuring is the average of thousands signals (including the one with pottentialy 2 bind Ab and the one with 1 binded Ab). So yes, i think that if you are measuring a signal increase, it is a real increase in what you are measuring.
I hope this help you
Greetings
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I tried several times using the Lipofectamine 2000 reagent, extracted the proteins but couldn't detect on Western blot. My plasmids were constructed with PcDNA 3.1+ Please does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you.
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Thank you Sir, Bruno Salomone Gonzalez de Castejon, we changed the method and got positive results. We still used the HEK 293 cells but with the PEI 40K reagent this time.
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Hi, I am an MS student who is studying idiopathic Pulmonary fibrosis(IPF)
My P.I asked to analyze cytokine IL-6 or TNF-a through Western blot despite Many researchers using ELISA for it because of tight budget, can you recommend good IL-6 antibody products for W.B? (It would be better if I could use it at ELISA)
Also, mRNA expression from RT-PCR method is fine too.
Thank you for reading my question.
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* To assess the cytokines levels such as IL-6 quantification, ELISA is the preferred method due to its simplicity, speed, high sensitivity, and quantitative nature while immunoblotting could be complex and requires higher concentration of loading volume to measure the cytokine expression.
If you need antibodies for ELISA and Immunoblot both. These could work.
Hope it helps,
Thanks,
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i am working with membrane protein and there is a his tag 4 amino acid above the c terminus (seq HHHHHHDLEY). anti his antibody does not recognise the his tag in western blotting. i was wondering if it is necessary for his tag to be on N or C terminus for western blotting and purification
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As already said the position in the sequence is not essential for detection in western blot.
However if you want to know which teminus is better for purification, you can use alphaFold2 prediction to check wich terminus is exposed and tag accordingly.
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Dear Community,
I recently performed a Western Blot on phospho-Erk1/2, phospho-STAT5, phospho-p70-S6K and phospho-STAT3. But the results were very strange. They all showed multiple extra bands and the bands on the correct height were not really making sense (in fact things I blotted before dozen of times with the same result now showed the complete opposite and strange superintense bands occured). I worked with all ingredients before for months without any problems (no extra bands, repeatable results, same protein amount). The only thing I changed was to store both prepared Mastermix (Lysate + Lysis Buffer for Dilution + 1/4 Laemmli 4x) and lysates at -80°C before blotting instead of -20°C. Can this explain my problems?
And if it is the reason can I prepare fresh mastermixes from the frozen lysates stored at -80°C or are they also damaged?
Thank you very much!
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Thank you very much, I already made aliquots and used Protease Inhibitor but it is very important to know that the storage conditions are not the reason for my problems!
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Hello everyone. I am in the middle of performing western blotting experiments measuring expression of p-S6(Ser235/236) protein in total cell lysate.
Originally, I was quantifying my data using ImageJ, and normalizing protein expression compared to the housekeeping gene on the same blot. (Ex: HSP60)
However, I was notified by my PI that she read a paper where the researchers compared expression of p-S6 to S6 protein on the same blot. It sounds like the researchers simply stripped the blot and re-probed with unphosphorylated protein since they are both the same size.
Which approach is the best way to normalize expression of phosphorylated protein on a single blot? I am considered that stripping and re-probing the same blot will cause loss of protein & unwanted retention of the phosphorylated protein.
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The best option is to conduct two-color Western blots with two primary antibodies from different species and different fluorescently labeled secondary antibodies to simultaneously detect and discriminate the two signals.
As primary antibodies use a phospho-specific antibody and a pan-specific antibody that recognizes the target protein regardless of its modification state.
Phospho-specific signals are then normalized against the total level of the target protein.
See also:
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Although I can detect the protein (above 200), leaving it for longer in the transfer (plus 2h), I think I am losing my endogenous protein, as its detection is not getting good. How can I solve it?
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I use a step gel: bottom part at 12% and upper part at 6%. You need to be careful when you set up the transfer: handling the gel is somehow tricky but is perfectly doable.
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I have used CSII to phosphorylate HP1a, in vitro. Now, to test this phosphorylation, I have options such as using an anti-serine phospho antibody or mass spectrometry.
Has anyone ever tested an anti-serine phospho antibody western blot that worked for them?
Any recommendations and catalog numbers would be helpful.
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If you are using purified proteins, the simplest method (if you can find a lab that has the necessary equipment) to detect phosphorylation would be intact protein mass spectrometry, either by electrospray or MALDI. Those methods would easily distinguish the mass change due to addition of phosphate. No antibodies needed.
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Hello, I'm having a bit of trouble doing the Western blot experiment.
Even though I load the same sample, the band appears inconsistently (in all the trials).
(I usually store the samples at -20°C and boil them at 95°C for 5 min before loading.)
This sample is harvested from bacteria-infected mammalian cells and I extracted only the mammalian cell protein by RIPA-buffer lysis method.
I wonder if anyone has an experience like this and how to solve this problem.
Thank you so much in advance!
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Inconsistent band patterns in Western blotting can result from various factors, including issues with sample preparation, electrophoresis, transfer, blocking, antibody incubation, washing steps, detection sensitivity, sample heterogeneity, and experimental reproducibility. To address these issues and achieve more consistent results:
  1. Ensure proper protein denaturation.
  2. Verify consistent sample loading using loading controls.
  3. Maintain uniform electrophoresis conditions.
  4. Optimize transfer efficiency.
  5. Thoroughly block the membrane to prevent nonspecific binding.
  6. Optimize antibody incubation conditions.
  7. Ensure adequate washing to minimize background signal.
  8. Optimize detection sensitivity.
  9. Minimize sample heterogeneity.
  10. Standardize experimental procedures for better reproducibility.
By carefully controlling each step of the Western blotting process and addressing potential sources of variability, you can enhance the consistency and reliability of your results. Additionally, including appropriate controls and performing replicate experiments can help validate your findings.
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I am doing crispr knockout in T cells. After transfection, I am trying to validate knockout by western blot and sequencing. with western blot, I can see truncated protein in knockout cells whereas in scrambled cells, band is at the expected position of the target protein.
With agarose gel, I can see 3 bands for knockout protein and scrambled is one band. My question is how do I sequence three bands. Shall i cut individual bands extract and purify DNA and then send for sequncing ?
what should be my approach? I am attaching pic of gel for reference.
pls help
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You have two options:
1) As you suggested, to cut out the bands, purify them and directly sequence them with the PCR primers, but the sequence will probably be rather “dirty” because of carry-over contamination with other amplification products.
2) Cut out the bands, purify and clone them, dependent on whether you are using a Taq polymerase with proofreading activity or not in a blunt end or TA vector and sequence a couple of positive clones. Either you conduct colony PCRs with your specific primers or vector primers and directly sequence the correct amplification products with the respective primers; or make plasmid minipreps and sequence them.
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I am trying to run a western blot on A549 cells with beta-actin as the loading control and alpha-SMA as the protein of interest. However, both beta-actin and alpha-SMA have similar kDas. How would this work?
I am also unsure how loading controls in western blots work. How would my WB process change?
**Note. This is what my lab professor told me to do.**
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use GADPH
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I'm working on senescence, and I'm trying to observe senescence markers. I have performed western blots for p21 but it seems that the bands are at a much higher molecular weight than expected. The expected molecular weight is aprox. 18KDa but I see bands around 50KDa. Has it ever happened to anyone? why does it happen? (I am using a monoclonal antibody 1:2000 from proteintech 67362-1-Ig). thanks :)
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I have had non specific bands in western blots before. You can try to contact the vendor that makes the antibody and ask if they have mapped the epitope on p21. Looking at their website, they only show immunofluorescent analysis. It may work better for that application more than for western blots. Maybe try a different antibody where the vendor shows an actual western blot in their catalog.
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I am doing crispr knockout in T cells. After transfection, I am trying to validate knockout by western blot and sequencing. with western blot, I can see truncated protein in knockout cells whereas in scrambled cells, band is at the expected position of the target protein.
With agarose gel, I can see 3 bands for knockout protein and scrambled is one band. My question is how do I sequence three bands. Shall i cut individual bands extract and purify DNA and then send for sequncing ?
what should be my approach? I am attaching pic of gel for reference
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Ajay Keot : Thanks. Sure will try sequencing PCR product.
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According to Bradford assay, the concentrations are pretty low. Apparently I added way too much extraction buffer to my lysates. Is there a cheap and reliable way to concentrate my protein extracts?
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One way would be to use a centrifugal ultrafiltration device, such as a Microcon.
A less expensive way would be to precipitate the protein using trichloroacetic acid (TCA). In 1.5-ml microcentrifuge tubes, add 1/10 volume of 72% (w/v) TCA to each sample. Incubate on ice for 10 minutes. Centrifuge at the maximum speed of the microcentrifuge for 10 minutes. Carefully remove the entire supernatant without disturbing the precipitate. Dissolve the precipitate in SDS-PAGE sample buffer.
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Cannot separate between 10~25kD, always have a line around 25kD...
(Resolving gel buffer: 30% Acrylamide/Bis, 1.5M Tris-Cl, pH 8.8, 10% SDS, 10% APS, TEMED)
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I suggest using a tricine-page modification to get a higher resolution for lower MW especially for the below 20kda...
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Hi everyone! I have encountered a problem with my western blots that I would be grateful if someone could help me with.
After I had been using the same protocol with good results for over a year, my blots suddenly started coming out with thin, dotty bands (see images). I also add an image of how it used to look before. Does anyone have any idea of what could be wrong?
All our buffers and gels are the same (from BioRad and Invitrogen).
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Hi Julia,
I just want to share my experience. I also had such problem in the past few days. Finally, I found it is the problem of loading buffer. When I changed to new loading buffer, all bands looked great.
Hope this helps you all.
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Currently I am trying abcam protocol for it.i checked the cell lysis by trypan blue stain which is more than 90 %. but I am facing following issues
1. unable to remove beta actin in mitochondrial fraction.
2. I am able to see mitochondria pellet (cell-1-1.5 X 10^7 cells) but the protein yield is very low 30 ug. and band of interest-SDHA is also very less on western blot compared to whole cell lysate when same amount of total protein (30 ug)
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Try to pellet down and resuspend into RIPA lysis and extraction buffer (ThermoFisher Sci cat#89900) for Western Blot.
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The old antibody has been discontinued and the currently offered are detecting a band at 62 kDa, which does not reflect the correct molecular weight (47 kDa).
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Hi Pietro,
We at Biomatik have some options for you.
You can have a look at our antibodies for Human SQSTM1 here: https://www.biomatik.com/search-results-page?q=Human%20SQSTM1&page=1&rb_categories=Antibodies
We also have a list of over 14,000 high quality catalog antibodies that you can browse.
We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best regards,
Biomatik Team
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We have recently aquired plasmids with the following configuration:
EF1A>{gene of interest}:P2A:Bsd
When used for transfection (293FT cells and SH-SY5Y cells), these cells expressed the desired protein after 48 hrs (verified several times by western blot and viewing of GFP which is encoded in some of our plasmids). When the selection antibiotic is added, most cells survive, which is expected. However, after a few days, the cells no longer produce the desired protein (verified many times by western blot and viewing GFP).
To be sure, we always use a negative control for the antibiotics, cells which were not transfected, and they all died quickly (36 hrs at most).
Oddly enough, when used for lentiviral infection, there is no issue, and the cells continue expressing the protein even after a few weeks of antibiotic selection.
We have not run into this problem with other vectors acquired from other sources.
Thanks in advance
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That's true. We've been pondering it, it's good to hear someone from the outside recommending it.
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Hi all, need a little help with this western blot please.
Protein band seems pretty spread out and this isn't the first time it's happened, thinking something must be wrong with the gel or protein degradation?
Any help appreciated!!
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Is the protein glycosylated? That would tend to cause the band to broaden. To test for N-linked glycosylation, treat the sample with PNGase F.
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Hello everybody, I'm currently performing Western blot and I am a beginners for Western blot, so I want to ask that Can I replace blotting paper by any other papers?
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I didn't understand your question that well. Are you referring to the Western Blot membrane as the blotting paper? Then the answer is no.
Western blotting is used for the immunodetection of proteins. This process involves the transfer of protein patterns from gel to a microporous membrane. The transfer of proteins to microporous membranes is referred to as blotting and this term encompasses both spotting (manual sample deposition) and transfer from planar gels. The blotted proteins form an exact replica of the gel. Then you subsequently employ the antibody probes directed against the membrane bound proteins.
A wide range of solid phases is available for immobilization, and the most common phases used for blotting are comprised of microporous surfaces and membranes like cellulose, nitrocellulose (NC), polyvinylidene difluoride (PVDF), cellulose acetate, polyethane sulfone and nylon. The nitrocellulose and PVDF are mostly used for Western Blot. The unique properties of microporous surfaces that make them suitable for Western Blotting are as follows:
1. large volume to surface area ratio,
2. high binding capacity,
3. short- and long-term storage of immobilized molecules,
4. ease of processing by allowing a solution phase to interact with the immobilized molecule,
5. lack of interference with the detection strategy and
6. reproducibility.
These microporous surfaces are used in the form of membranes or sheets with a thickness of 100 micrometers and possessing an average pore size that ranges from 0.05 to 10 micrometers in diameter.
Since you are new to Western Blot, I suggest you refer to the article attached below. It will be helpful!
Good Luck!
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So we have used different membranes and increased the protein concentration to 80mcg during the protein estimation and even though it's been always showing, we have not had any luck getting their expression lately for some reason.
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I think it might be a problem to get these membrane bound proteins into solution. I assume you are spinning down the cell debris after lysis? I do think that there is most on the CDH5 and Claudin going. Is there SDS within you lysis buffer? You might want to take a look in the literature searching for soluble (cytoplasmic/small vesicle) and insoluble connexin (membrane bound) lysis buffers.
Best wishes
Soenke
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I am doing western blots with an RNA binding protein and believe due to the vertical streaks, that I have RNA contamination. I have tried boiling the samples for longer as well. Another protein I have probed for does not have the vertical streaks and is not an RNA binding protein. Could someone recommend a protocol they have used or know of to get rid of RNA contamination in protein preps for western blots?
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Hi Anna Schorr , if your protein is prepared by Trizol there should be little-to-no RNA contamination. Have you actually confirmed there is RNA in the sample, or could the streaks just be electrophoretic artifact?
Very simply you could just treat the samples with RNAse A.
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Does anyone have experience using this blocking buffer (made with Salmon serum) for immunohistochemistry of mammalian cells or tissues?
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Hi Subhash @Subhash C. Juneja,
I would like ask what percentage of sea block you use.
Best,
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I am working on c1q and lair2 and how their interaction affects lupus (autoimmune disease) .
we used western blot , yet we can't see lair 2 ,
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we had 6 samples ;
1+2 total ( no beads)
3+4 ( with beads)
5+6 controls ( with beads)
the first picture ( lair2 antibody)
the second picture ( c1q antibody)
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Hi, I´m doing Western Blot and normalizing with GAPDH.
I usually perform it with mouse skeletal muscle samples. I am using GAPDH (D16H11) XP Rabbit mAb #5174 from CellSignalling with an antirabbit secondary Ab.
The problem is that I use to see 2 bands at 37 and 45 kDa when it is indicated to give only 1 band at 37 kDa. More often is the upper band more intense and homogeneous between samples but it sometimes happens with the lower band.
Does anyone know what could be happening? Thanks
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Hi
as you'll see in the attached picture, there are 2 isoforms differing at 5' of the gene.
all the best
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Hello,
What would be the best procedure right after extracting brain samples from mice, if we plan to analyze the samples later ?
Would it be best to just directly flash freeze the brain tissue in isopentane before storing at -80°, or to homogenize and add some RNase or protease inhibitors before the freezing ?
Additionally, if the samples are sent to external collaborators for the analyses, what is the recommended temperature for shipping, is -20° cold enough ?
Many thanks,
Benjamin Vidal
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Thank you very much Sebastian, interesting to know for the powder.
This is not for omics analyses but rather "simple", regular Western-Blot/RT-PCR (detection of a given transcript/protein).
I don't know if this makes a difference.
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After Transferring the membrane picture with Ponceau S Staining looks like the membrane is burning and has poor transfer. Can someone help with this?
I also noticed something weird on the gel after the transfer, it seems there are some blue spots with Coomassie Blue staining.
Gel condition
12% gel
I load 30 ug protein in each lane with six samples and two ladders separately.
Transfer condition
Wet method: 19-hour/constant 30V at working fridge (4 degrees) with ice bucket
PVDF membrane active with the methanol > 1 mins
The transfer buffer is fresh with 25 mM Tris, 192 mM glycine, and 20%methaol but make a 10* stock solution of transfer buffer, which is 250mM Tris 1920mP Glycine, then add 700ml ddh20 and 200ml Methanol to make 1L transfer buffer.
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1. Picture with PVDF membrane after Ponceau S Staining
2. gel with Coomassie Blue staining after transfer
3. sandwich wet method: only show sponge/ two filter paper/ gel/ (start from black Sponge two filter paper, gel, membrane, two filter paper, Sponge)
4. gel after electrophoresis.
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I got the result after hybridate with an antibody, i tried ponceau s again after that, the problem disappeared for some reason and the membrane looked normal. my supervisor asks me to do an overnight transfer, it seems 1h 100v does not work. Philippe Paget-Bailly
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At the protocol I'm using now there is an added note indicating that it is possible to freeze the protein samples mixed with the laemmli to temporarily store them at -20ºC and denature them before performing the western blot. However, one of my coworkers says she tried it once and it didn't work out. ¿Can anyone please tell me if they have done this before and how it turned out? I have a large number of samples and this could save me some time. Tips and suggestions are appreciated.
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I would suggest take a few microlitres of protein sample and mix with same amount of buffer and proceed to store at -20 to be denatured later.
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Hello¸
Im PhD Student in UQTR ( Canada), I have a crucial experience for my project thesis : I have a WB (western blot) membrane that I need to store for a long time for incubation with other antibodies (Precisely Ubiquitin) . I read that I can put it in a bag at -20C.
I want just to confirm if I did it correctly (see picture) or there are other ways.
Thanks in advance
Ayoub
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I usually air dry the membranes after dipping in methanol and seal it in a plastic bag at -20 degree celsius.
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Dear users,
I'm now struggling for almost three months to make a pSTAT3-ELISA (https://www.rndsystems.com/products/human-mouse-phospho-stat3-y705-duoset-ic-elisa_dyc4607b-2) work but was unable to succeed. I completely followed their protocol without the smallest deviation but got no result. I then tried different Lysis Buffers (RIPA with SDS, RIPA with Triton-X-100, Lysis Buffer #6 of RnD) but nothing changed. I doubled the antibody amount with no effect and tried different ug amounts of the samples (1-2,5-5-10-25-50-100ug) but nothing changed. It's always the same result since the beginning: The standard curves are perfect but no signal from the samples. When I use other techniques with the same samples (Western Blot, Dot Blot) I get very good results for pSTAT3. I even performed a Western Blot with the Standards which indicated that my samples should be in the standard range. What can I do to make this ELISA work? Thank you very much for your answers.
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For everyone interested in this question: We couldn't find out the reason why this ELISA failed except for the standards and have sent it back to the company. Obviously neither the Lysis Buffer nor the amount of Urea was the problem. Maybe it wasn't compatible with HEK-Lysates. But that is just an assumption.
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Hi! I am a first year PhD student and I have been trying to do western blotting using #Jess #proteinsimple in my lab. My samples show a beta actin crisp band while i dont see any thing for the target protein of interest. Antibodies used - #HNE, #cytokines like tnf-alpha, #autophagymarkers like #P62 and #LC3
Any suggestions on how to optimize?? Any leads are really appreciated..
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I used LC3B on JESS recently, using samples previously tested on western blot. I loaded about 5 ug protein (cell lysate, HEK293 stimulated with Bafilomycin), used this antibody: LC3B (D11) XP® Rabbit mAb #3868 (cell signaling) in 1:10/1:50 (both work); however 1 out of 3 samples previously positive on western was negative here. I used the 2-40 kDa separation cardridge and it detected the band at 17 kDa.
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I am unsure of the cause. It is reproducible across multiple blots and cells lines with both the phospho-specific antibody and the total mTOR antibody. Thanks for the help!
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What gets me is companies never have them. Anyway, I think we need to perform mass spec to find out, for sure.
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Hi all. I performed CRISPR knockout by lentiviral transduction. Cells were grown in puromycin for a period of time, protein was extracted and cells were also frozen down. A western blot showed almost complete knockdown of my target protein. After a couple of months I cultured a vial of these cells and I am now detecting abundant expression of the target protein via western blot. I have no clue how that has happened. I have also tried culturing cells in puromycin again, thinking that perhaps the wild type cells took over the population after thawing, but even in puromycin these cells are growing well. Has anyone had a similar experience or know why this is happening?
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Hi Zahra,
It might be that the mutant cells with low degree of protein disruption are taking over your culture. You might have cells with small mutations, in frame, and that is why you see the protein on the western blot.
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I have conducted several western blots to detect the expression of Zonula Occludens-1 (ZO-1), NCX-1, and PMCA1. However, I have observed that the expression levels of these proteins are very low, resulting in faint or even non-existent bands, despite adjusting the dilution factor of the antibodies (up to 1/200) and extending the transfer time overnight. Upon repeating the western blot experiments, the results for these proteins remain nearly negligible.
Could this lack of detection be attributed to limitations inherent in the cell line model I am utilizing, specifically Caco-2 cells? Alternatively, is it possible that these proteins are better detected using techniques such as immunohistochemistry or other methods? Interestingly, these proteins have been reported in some studies utilizing Caco-2 cells. Upon reaching out to these researchers, it was discovered that both parties are employing similar techniques and protocols.
What could potentially account for this variation in results despite consistent methodologies being employed?
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I appreciate your thoughtful response. I'll dedicate effort to optimizing the situation and remain optimistic about the potential results.
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I am doing western blots for extracellular vesicle protein and I don't have a good loading control. I want to quantify my western blots to compare the amount of CD81 in EVs collected from two different locations. What is a good way to do that?
Thank you!
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If you have the purified protein, you can run several lanes of it containing different amounts. Then when you do the Western blot, you can plot a standard curve of the signal for the purified protein. This can then be used to quantify the amount of the protein in the EV extracts.
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I am treating tet on mice with doxycline (76ppm) for 2 weeks and i dont get the overexpression according to Western Blot. In rtPCR i see differences, but in protein level these differences are not reflected. What might be the issue?
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Could be increased ubiquitination/degradation of the protein.
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Hello, 
I am using a c-myc-tagged plasmid for coIP experiments, and i always get two specific bands on my western blot when I immunoblot with the c-Myc antibody (ab32). I dont understand what can be the second band i see on my western blot. Can anyone Help plz 
Thanks 
Pam
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When you observe two specific bands in a Western blot using an antibody against c-Myc, it could indicate several biological or technical factors. Understanding the context of your experiment, including the cell type, the nature of the c-Myc construct (if any), and experimental conditions, can help interpret these results. Here are some common reasons for observing two bands:
1. Post-Translational Modifications (PTMs)
c-Myc is known to undergo various post-translational modifications, including phosphorylation, acetylation, and ubiquitination. These modifications can alter the migration pattern of proteins on SDS-PAGE, potentially resulting in multiple bands. Different forms of modified c-Myc might have slightly different molecular weights, leading to the appearance of two distinct bands.
2. Alternative Splicing or Isoforms
The c-Myc gene might produce different isoforms through alternative splicing, leading to proteins of slightly different sizes. If your c-Myc antibody is capable of detecting more than one isoform, this could explain the presence of two bands.
3. Cleavage Products
Proteolytic cleavage of proteins can result in fragments of various sizes. If c-Myc is being cleaved in your cells, the antibody might detect both the full-length protein and a stable cleavage product.
4. Expression of Multiple Myc Family Proteins
If the antibody has cross-reactivity with other members of the Myc family, such as N-Myc or L-Myc, and these proteins are expressed in your cells, you might observe multiple bands. Check the antibody specificity to see if cross-reactivity is a known issue.
5. Technical Considerations
  • Loading Control: Ensure that a loading control is used to rule out unequal loading or transfer as a cause of varying band intensities.
  • Antibody Specificity: Verify the specificity of the antibody through controls, such as using cells with known c-Myc levels or overexpression/knockdown models.
  • Experimental Conditions: Changes in cell conditions, treatments, or stress could influence c-Myc expression or modification levels, potentially leading to variations in detected bands.
Troubleshooting Steps
  • Control Experiments: Use cells with known c-Myc status (overexpression, knockout, etc.) as controls.
  • Antibody Validation: Check if the antibody has been validated for Western blot and for detecting endogenous levels of c-Myc. Look for validation data or publications that used the same antibody.
  • Optimize Western Blot Conditions: Optimizing gel concentration, transfer conditions, and antibody dilutions can help clarify the nature of the observed bands.
  • Mass Spectrometry: For a definitive identification of the bands, consider cutting them out from a gel and analyzing them by mass spectrometry. This can confirm the identity of the proteins and any post-translational modifications.
In summary, multiple bands detected with a c-Myc antibody in Western blot could have various biological or technical explanations. Careful experiment design and additional controls can help determine the reason behind the observed bands.
l With this protocol list, we might find more ways to solve this problem.
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I have utilized pET26b(+) NS2B-NS3 DENV2, and transfected it in E.coli. After transfection the selected cells were characterized based on the kanamycin resistance present in the vector. The selected cells were incubated with 1 millimolar of IPTG at 28 C for 4 hrs induction. While the results seem positive for the experiment, multiple bands occur underneath the protein of interest. the selection was done based on the histidine tag using penta-his antibody. Please help me with this concern. I am using TMB for the development of the blot.
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If you have not yet tried adding protease inhibitors when preparing the protein lysate then that would be the first thing I would try. Secondly you might reduce the time after induction or reduce the temperature a bit more.
Lastly the level of these products is fairly minor and you might just ignore them.
However I would note that you DO NOT know if your protein is pure or not. Since you are doing a western blot by definition you are only seeing the proteins that are detected. You might wish to run a protein gel and stain to get an idea of the actual purity, if this is something important to you. But truthfully for many applications you do not need pure protein.
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Hi everyone, I transfected HEK cells with a protein that is intracellularly expressed through flow. Then I isolated the protein using RIPA buffer protocol, however, I accident added IP buffer instead of RIPA and now I do the know if it’s worth going through the whole western blot process.
For more context, I only know the protein shows intracellular expression through flow but don’t know exactly where it’s expressed. I looked up and ThermoFisher said IP is less harsh than RIPA so I don’t know if it collects everything or not.
Any advice is appreciated!
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Can you please share the composition?
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I'm wondering if there are any cases in which a nonsense mutation don't trigger non-sense mediated decay. If so, I would like to know if it would be possible to detect truncated protein in a Western blot (if the antibody binds to a region that is present in the truncated product).
Thank you very much.
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I would guess the major reason for nonsense mediated decay is that the protein is not properly folded and therefore the host scavenging system will degrade the unfolded or partially folded proteins. Each protein is going to have different kinetics for degradation depending its state so for some proteins you probably can easily see truncated species, whereas other proteins maybe not.
If you want to maximize the potential for seeing the truncated proteins I would be sure to use rapidly dividing cells so that you can capture recently translated protein (and not use old cells where the protein is likely degraded).
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In our experience, the antibodies #9196L and #9192 from Cell Signaling have not been effective.
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Thank you for your suggestion, Mr. Linscott!
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Hi
I am working on lair2 and it's interaction with C1q to understand who that affect lupus.
We used cell line to produce lair2 . than we transfected it with c1q.
and now we are doing western blot , to detect the two proteins, the first time we incubate them with c1q antibody . and we see the two proteins . after that we used the same membrane to detect lair2 , we wash the membrane and incubate it with lair 2 antibody and we see the protein .
we used 2 negative controls , in the first detection we saw two faint bands in them . in the second one we didn't see them.
I don't know what's the problem , and how to analyze it?
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I had a similar problem, the second detection was very weak, so I tried to divided my samples by half (repeated loading into the gel in the same order), and then after the transfer I cut the membrane and each half was detected by different antibodies, it worked every time.
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I am working on polyacrylamide gel for western blot. I don't know why I get small wells .
when I prepare the gel it sound good , yet when I load the samples it is small.
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Are you rinsing the wells out just before loading? Sometimes acrylamide leaks out of the gel and forms a dense layer in the well and your sample may sit on this layer not on the bottom of the well.Just a few squirts of running buffer in each well will clean the wells
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Possible solution to increase the yield of the protein?
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You mentioned poor yield and the use of western blot, I assumed you have a very low concentration of recombinant protein.
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I am performing western blotting using tissue lysates prepared from white adipose tissues isolated from mice. The targets are membrane proteins. The protein quantification was carried out using BCA. I have attached the protein conc results.
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Have you thought of changing the loading control? In mouse tissue samples, not all loading control proteins are expressed equally. Moreover, under certain experimental conditions, the protein levels of some loading control proteins can be affected. Therefore, it becomes essential to check reliable expression databases and the literature to ensure the tissue type expression of loading control protein before you perform Western Blot. Make sure that a given loading control protein is highly expressed in your tissue sample before running any blots. It may be possible that the loading control is not expressed at constant rate in your samples.
I have attached an article below which may be helpful.
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Hi there to all of you.
Can I extract proteins with TRIZol? If so, what would be the most effective way to measure proteins following TRIZol extraction? I intend to detect proteins using western blot after using the TRIzol reagent from Ambion.
The issue is that, in order to avoid having to redo the experiment, I now need to obtain the mRNA for qRT-PCR and the protein for Western blot from the same sample. Viral proteins within infected cell lines are the proteins I'm looking for.
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Did it work? I've heard that protein extraction with TRIzol is not as efficient as it sounds and it is not the best for western blot, so I'm interested in knowing if it is true
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Hi,
I recently got in an argument with a new coworker on how to dilute protein samples for WB.
I normally dilute the Laemmli based on the total volume that I want to load in the wells, Example: if I have 5uL of protein sample I will add 2.5uL of LAE( 1/4 of 10) and add 2.5 of H2O, and the 10uL resulted are loaded in the well.
He assert to dilute the Laemmli based on the sample volume.
Example; for 5ul of protein sample He will add 1.67uL of LAE (1/3 of protein sample) and then or load 6.67 in the well or take to a certain volume with H2O.
His argument is that on the LAEMMLI protocol is written "dilute 1:4 with sample" but I dont catch the reasoning for it to be like this, because like this, more concentrated protein sample will have less LAEMMLI than a less concentrated one but the ug of protein is the same.
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Malcolm Nobre I will give you an example of my experiments.
  • I had 1 sample that to take 12ug I had to take 4.5 of sample, then with my colleague method I had to add 1.5ul of LAE (total volume 6ul). Another sample I had to take 1.5uL of sample and add 0.5 of LAE and add 4ul of H20(total volume of 6uL to load sample volume). So 1° sample LAE dilute 1:4, meanwhile the 2° sample the LAE was dilute 1:12.
  • Instead with my method I would have done 1° sample 4.5+1.5LAE(6 total) and 2° sample 1.5+1.5LAE+3H2O (6 total). Both LAE dilute 1:4.
The reasoning "that more concentrated protein sample will have less LAEMMLI than a less concentrated one" is that in the first scenario both sample had 12ug of protein in the solution but one had a third of LAE, so in my head I thought that the second sample will be less denatured or will have more problem in the loading phase(less glycerol).
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Hello researchers,
I'm currently working on a project involving LC3B antibody (Cell Signaling & SIGMA) for western blot analysis. Unfortunately, I've been consistently facing issues with dark background and black patches on the membrane. Despite trying various troubleshooting methods, the problem persists. Has anyone encountered a similar issue and found a solution? Your insights and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!"
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Yes, it's likely because of high concentration antibodies, the blocking, or insufficient washing. As for me, I tried to:
1. Reduce antibodies concentration
2. Make a fresh skim milk every time I do blocking (since I use skim milk as blocking agent)
3. Increase the time of washing in every step. At least change the TBST 3 times, for 10 minutes at each.
Hope this helps.
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I looked at the data sheet provided with the antibody, but I have found nothing regarding the recommended dilution range
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In case of using a new antibody or looking for a niche to buy you can visit a website called antibody pedia. You can find a feedback and some recommendation on the antibody of interest.
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After collecting the lysates, BCA assay immediately comes next to determine the quantity of the lysates to be used for western blot. However, the scaffolds used are plant protein-based, which hypothetically contributes to the total protein concentration of the lysate considering the mechanical and chemical degradation during lysis procedure. Thus, even when loaded with equal protein concentrations per sample, after western blotting, the cultured meat samples show low expression levels. How can i establish a fair comparison of protein expression given the situation?
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Is there a marker protein you could blot for? You could then normalize the density of your signal of interest to that of the marker protein.
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I am working with SH-SY5Y cells and differentiating them into neurons using retinoic acid. I need to extract protein from them in order to conduct a western blot, however, I am having trouble getting enough protein. I am using 6 well plates and seeding 250,000 cells per well, with 3 wells per condition and harvest/differentiate at 80-90% confluency. Once they are differentiated I place the plate on ice, wash with 300ul of PBS per well and then add 300ul of RIPA buffer and protease inhibitor solution. I leave this on there for a few mins and shake the plate before using a cell scraper to lyse the cells (scraping about 30 times). I then transfer all 3 wells worth of cells to a 1.5ml eppendorf and centrifuge at 14,000g for 15mins, I do not set a temperature, but by the end of it, the centrifuge cools to 4 degrees celcius. I then transfer the supernatant to another eppendorf and perform a BCA assay. My issue is I am getting very low/undetectable levels of protein and don't know what I can do to increase this. If anyone has any suggestions that would be greatly appreciated, thankyou in advance!
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Below are some suggestions which you could incorporate in your protocol.
1. Once they are differentiated, I place the plate on ice, wash with 300ul of PBS per well.
Wash the cells twice with 300ul of ice-cold PBS per well. Take care that the cells do not detach from the substratum.
2. Then I add 300ul of RIPA buffer and protease inhibitor solution.
Then you may add 150-200ul of ice-cold RIPA buffer instead of 300ul and protease inhibitor solution. Reduce the volume of RIPA buffer accordingly if you need a higher protein concentration.
3. I leave this on there for a few mins and shake the plate.
Incubate the plate on ICE for 20 minutes with occasional shaking every 5 minutes. In an intact cell, protease and phosphatase enzymes are typically sequestered in cellular compartments. However, during the process of cell lysis, these compartments are broken open, releasing proteases and phosphatases that may degrade proteins and cause changes in phosphorylation states. Placing the cells on ice during lysis will help slow down these processes.
4. Before using a cell scraper to lyse the cells (scraping about 30 times).
RIPA lysis buffer is a cell lysis solution that is used for total cell lysis, and then you may make use of a cold plastic cell scraper to scrape the cells off the surface of the plate. You need not use the scraper 30 times to lyse the cells.
5. I then transfer all 3 wells worth of cells to a 1.5ml Eppendorf and centrifuge at 14,000g for 15mins.
Perfect. You may centrifuge in the range of 12000-14000g for 10-15 mins but at 4 degree C.
6. I do not set a temperature, but by the end of it, the centrifuge cools to 4 degrees C.
No, this is an incorrect practice. Set the temperature of the centrifuge at 4 degrees C in advance so that the temperature reaches 4 degree C when you need to carry out the process of centrifugation.
7. I then transfer the supernatant to another Eppendorf and perform a BCA assay.
Perfect.
Just make these changes and I hope you get better results.
Best.
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In a Western Blot (WB) experiment, does the concentration of SDS-PAGE gel affect the position of protein bands? In the image, the same protein samples were used for all five lanes. The left side (lane 1, lane 2, lane 3) used a 10% gel, while the right side used a 12.5% gel, with all other conditions being consistent.
Thanks for your kindly help!
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Hi Quan,
The concentration does not play a role in the change in banding pattern. You might observe thicker bands, but that is pretty much all that you should see a difference in. From your image, I still see the same protein bands at the correct size in both the gels, only the intensity varies. This should not be a problem :)
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Hi, I am new to this platform. I am currently preparing for Western Blot experiments using Young (7-10 mo) and Aging (20+ mo) mice and the protein of interest will be tight junction proteins (ex. occluden, claudin-5, ZO-1).
I have looked through a series of commonly used housekeeping genes (e.g. β-actin, α-tubulin, β-tubulin and GAPDH) but found that all of them will be affected by aging. I have also looked through stain-free and total protein normalization (by Ponceau S or Coomassie staining), which seems to give a more promising result than the housekeeping genes. But since they are relatively new approaches, I would like to seek opinions here about a good way for the loading control of age-related Western Blot.
Thank you very much!
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You may use Rplp0 (ribosomal protein large P0).
You may want to refer to the article attached below which has shown that out of the eight reference genes examined (Gapdh, Gusb, Rplp0, B2m, Tubb5, Rpl7l1, Hprt, Rer1), Rplp0 was stable in both sex as well as age.
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For many phosphorylation studies of MAP kinases, cells are serum-starved overnight prior to stimulation. Serum-free media such as DMEM 1X is supplemented with 0.5% bovine serum albumin. Is there any drawback to including NEAA in the serum-free media? Is NEAA known to cause phosphorylation of MAP kinases?
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Addition of NEAA in serum-free media may affect your experimental results. Amino acids are the basic building blocks of proteins and constitute all proteinaceous material of the cell including the protein component of enzymes, receptors, and signaling molecules. Also, some non-essential amino acids can regulate gene expression and cell signaling pathways. Therefore, under normal conditions, NEAA is used as a supplement for cell culture medium to increase cell growth and viability.
Moreover, MAP kinases regulate diverse cellular programs by relaying extracellular signals to intracellular responses, and coordinately regulate cell proliferation, differentiation, motility, and survival. So, I feel you should limit to serum-free media supplemented with 0.5% bovine serum albumin so that the cells do not proliferate but manage to survive overnight prior to stimulation.
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In a Western Blot (WB) experiment, does the concentration of SDS-PAGE gel affect the position of protein bands? In the image, the same protein samples were used for all five lanes. The left side (lane 1, lane 2, lane 3) used a 10% gel, while the right side used a 12.5% gel, with all other conditions being consistent.
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Yes, elevated concentrations of polyacrylamide in the gel result in narrower gel (mesh in the stationary phase), leading to an extension of the protein's retention time. Consequently, the bands will manifest in slightly altered positions. Various other factors can influence these positions, including the composition of the running buffer, as well as electrical parameters such as the selected voltage and amperage. It is essential to acknowledge that these parameters will uniformly affect both the marker and the protein. Therefore, it is advisable to optimize these parameters in conjunction with an appropriate marker, taking into consideration the size of the protein in question.
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Hello,
So I have been struggling to get a successful western blot using MIN6 derived EVs, and it has been a real struggle.
Everytime I isolate my EVs, and after lysing them, I run the proteins in the gel and see not band at all. I use coomassie blue or the stainfree precast gels to check the run.
The ladder shows up fine though.
After lysing my EVs, I measure the protein amount using microBCA, and when I diluted the sample 1/2 I got a final concentration of around 200ug/ml, and when I diluted it 1/10 I got a final concentration of 400ug/ml. This is already weird but I still loaded my sample assuming I had 200ug/ml to be on the safe side, and I used 4x laemmli in order to avoid unecessary dilutions, and using my calculations I should have loaded around 15ug/ml. But the imaging showed no protein at all, and now I am really puzzled. (the first band is the ladder, and I am supposed to see two bands on the left side of it).
Brifely here are the steps i followed:
-Collect media from min6 cells (150ml)
-Centrifuge 500g/10min, collect supernatant, centrifuge 2000g for 20min, collect supernatant,ultracentrifuge 120000g for 90min(4C), keep the pellet and wash with pbs 150000g for 70min(4C).
-Finally I diluted the pellet in 500ul of PBS and store at -80C.
Lysis:
-Take 100ul of my ev sample, put it in a 10k column, centrifuge at 1400g/15min at 4C, add 500ul of 1XRIPA to my concentrate, spin 14000g/15min 4c. Put the column upside down in the tube and spin 2000g/2min. Add 70ul of RIPA and incubated on ice for 15min, then spin again 14000g/15min 4c and collect supernatant, and put on ice until further use.
Gel:
I use stain free anyKd precast gels with 50ul wells, and I use for the prep solution :4x leammli(900ul)+b-mercaptoethanol(100ul), because I am looking for tsg101 antibody. I then mix 1/8th of prep solution with 7/8th of my lysed sample. Heat up at 70C 10min, and load the sample in the well, run at 120v/1h.
I don't know what went wrong.
I trying once running the gel with unlysed EVs, and I got a faint band when I did coomassie blue, so maybe the lysis is wrong, or the initial amount of conditioned media is too low, as I saw some people starting with 1-2liters.
I would be grateful if anyone can help.
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Sarah Boucenna in our lab we had Abcam 10KD columns (https://www.abcam.com/products/sample-preparation-kits/10kd-spin-column-ab93349.html) it says deproteinizes, also other vendor see attachment. We only use them for low size molecules and when doing mass spec. My extraction was RIPA buffer and yes we did westerns and they worked well for microsomes and EVs.
All in all you could be misreading protein conc as you thought. Good luck
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I'm doing this since the ordered antibodies were not received yet?
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* Blots can be stored in TBS for 1-2 weeks at 4 degree, however for long term storage the membranes should be dried and stored in -20 or -80 freezers in a sealed plastic bag.
* Remember to thaw frozen blots to room temperature before removing them from the bag to prevent cracking.
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Dear esteemed researchers,
I have recently conducted Western blot experiments to detect uPAR (CD87). The whole-cell lysate samples I used were obtained from four human glioblastoma cell lines (U87, U251, LN229, LN319) and two mouse glioblastoma cell lines (GL261, G422). According to previous literature data and the recommended molecular weight by the antibody supplier, the expected molecular weight of the target protein is around 50 kD. However, the band positions in my Western blot are not aligning correctly (considering that my experimental conditions should not have fundamental errors, as I have conducted other protein Western blot experiments where the band positions correspond to the correct molecular weights).
Has anyone else conducted similar experiments? Could you please provide some advice on why such results might occur? I appreciate your valuable time and generous assistance.
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Thanks for your kindly suggestion !I will try. The lane 7 is protein from lung(mouse),and 8 is spleen.
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We are optimizing SDS-PAGE, i would like to know the best ratio and percentage for the Staking gel and separation gel of Acrylamide.
Its like 37.1:1 and 29.1 and 19.1 and also 30% and 40%,
So i am confused about it.
Your recommendation would help alot.
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Use 30% acrylamide and make 10 to 12% resolving gel. Use 4% stacking gel with 30% acrylamide. You will get sharp band.
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Hello,
I have a problem when revealing my western blots ! I use biorad LF PVDF membranes with the Biorad transfer system (in 7 min) I block with the Biorad blocking solution then I incubate with the primary anticorp and I reveal again with the Biorad SB 700 rabbit. Nevertheless, the membranes appear as they do here, and it's easy to understand why!
It's been a while since I changed all the solutions I usually use, but we still manage to get this profile!
has anyone encountered this problem before?
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strange... I would say that in your 4 first lanes you have a very strong signal that leaks on the gel ... when the signal is very stong it can makes white bands instead of black ones... did you make a spot with a pencil ? (inks are fluorescent )...
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Hi all,
I am looking into switching from nitrocellulose membranes to pvdf membranes for LC3 detection in western blotting. Can I use ethanol (as opposed to methanol) to hydrate my pvdf membranes before transfer? In addition, can I use ethanol in my transfer buffer when doing a western blot with pvdf membranes, or do I need to stick with methanol?
Thank you for your help! I really appreciate it!
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Yes you can that what I am doing from 4 years to now et it work perfectly
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Dear all, I recently had trouble analyzing my data by Western blot. I'm using the cell line model and transfection performance to analyze the importance of my target protein to cellular signaling. When I transfected and visualized the protein location or cell vibration, migration, or proliferation, the results turned out as expectation. However, when I tried to extract the protein for western blot and RNA for q-PCR analysis, the data became inconsistent and the phosphor form was the same between all conditions. I had changed my sample buffer, lysis buffer also other buffers to make SDS-PAGE but the results were the same.
Could you please give me suggestions to solve the trouble?
Thank you so much and best regards.
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Maybe you are sampling in a late time point, and the phosporilation occurs at early stage, try to do a time lapse experiment, as early as posible 0.5-2 h
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Hello everyone,
I am performing western blot (SDS-PAGE) for the phospho-mTOR protein, molecular weight 289 KD. I am using 6% resolving gel for it. I kept the transferring time around 4 to 6 hours at 60 volt (4 degree C). However I am not able to get the proper band. Please share any idea/knowledge.
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In addition to using 6% resolving gel, thickness of the gel is an important factor to consider. Large molecular weight proteins transfer more effectively from thinner gels than from thicker varieties. There is less distance for proteins to migrate during electrophoretic transfer in a 1mm gel than in a 1.5mm gel which may require longer transfer and high molecular weight proteins may get transferred less efficiently.
Always use wet tank transfer to detect high molecular weight proteins. The composition of your transfer buffer is also important. Large proteins can precipitate out in the presence of methanol. You may avoid this by decreasing the percentage of methanol (use 10% or less) in your transfer buffer. Additionally, just to ensure that the protein does not precipitate out, you may add SDS to a final concentration of 0.1%. SDS adds uniform negative charge to proteins, making it easier for them to transfer from the gel onto the membrane.
For high molecular weight proteins, use PVDF membrane (0.45um pore size) for transfer because large proteins can precipitate out in the presence of methanol, and PVDF membrane does not require any methanol in the transfer buffer. Since large molecular weight proteins will transfer out of the gel slowly, I recommend transferring overnight (around 16 hours) at 4°C at 20-30V instead of using 4 to 6 hours for transfer.
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my protein is a nucleolar protein which is tagged with HA, FLAG and myc tag. i have over-expressed it and good GFP expression was observed which is directly proportional to the amount of my protein expressing. but when i am making nuclear extract out of these cells after 48h of infection with prominent gfp expression with protein concentration measured by Bradford assay was 10ug/ul followed by western blot, i am not getting any band on the blot. what could be the possible troubleshoot for this.
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Whenever you do a Western Blot, take the membrane from blotting and perform a staining with Ponceau S.
This takes 3 min, the solution can be reused and the staining is reversible. You will directly see if you have propper bands...
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Hi all,
I wanted to ask about the best method of blots long-term preservation so it can be handed to the reviewers later, and if it is better to be stripped or not!
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Thanks for the tips!
I'll follow the steps you mentioned.
Have a good day,
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Hello everybody,
I have a question related to western blot.
I'm studying the activation/phosphorylation of p65-NFKB in monocytes over time using three different stimuli. The transfer went well (as you can see from ponceau red), and the protein load is equal across all samples, however, two bands are partially missing. Could someone please explain how or why this might occur? Also I would very much appreciate suggestions on how to fix this issue and maybe avoid it in the future.
thank you all very much!
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you can use an internal (western-blot) standard (a house-keeping protein not to much expressed GAPDH? ) and then standardize the signal of your protein of interest relative to this internal control ....
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I am trying to detect a secreted protein by Western blot in plan tissue. To this aim, we are using a simple protein extraction protocol based on TX-100 and DTT. Then, I am loading the samples in a SDS-PAGE and doing western blotting. However, I don´t detect my protein eventhough it should be overexpressed… We have read that this protein is secreted. Should I perform another protocol to identify it? Can this protocol somehow promote degradation of my protein ?
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Plant tissues often contain polyphenol oxidase enzymes that can damage proteins by chemical modification. To avoid this, include polyvinylpyrrolidone in the extraction buffer. Also include protease inhibitor cocktail.
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Hello everybody. We have a problem with western blot.
wet transfer 100 min, 75mA in TGS 1x + 20% metOH.
does anyone help us to rescue this problem?
in attached you can see the ponceau staining image.
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This is a error occurred during the transfer step, due to entrapment of air bubbles in between the transfer pads and gel. Roll over the roller properly and add sufficient amount of transfer buffer to avoid it.
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I am trying to look at ubiquitination levels for a protein. I use a rabbit polyclonal antibody to immunoprecipitate the protein and then use a mouse monoclonal ubiquitin antibody to do the western. I have tried variations in the protocol but it seems that I always detect bands that have a lower molecular weight than my protein instead of getting higher molecular weight bands that would correspond to the ubiquitinated form of my protein. I tried using a mouse monoclonal antibody for the IP but it gives a lot of non specific bands. I don't have a lot of the polyclonal antibody so I don't know if purifying it would be a good idea. I have tried blocking the beads in 5% BSA, making the antibody-bead complex before adding the lysate but I still get the same results. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could modify the IP protocol to get better results?
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Were you able to solve the issue?
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I am doing western blotting for sample after PFA cross-linking. And, indeed, I see something which looks like cross-linked band after PFA, but it MW is ~30 kDa smaller than expected.
I would like to understand - is it common and expectable?
I would assume that electrophoretic mobility should be affected by cross-linking, because cross-linking will prevent SDS-denaturation. But it would be nice to have some examples of similar cases.
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Post cross-linking, the sum of the proteins linked by cross-linker is what you should expect to see. In practice however, this is more complicated since cross linking is not a clean experiment and since there are intra- (within the protein) as well as many mono-linkages formed as reaction products.
So, if you are observing a cross linked product smaller than expected, is that because you already know what it is linking with?
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I am searching for antibody to rat brain tissue. I would prefer to purchase antibody for both Western blot and Immunohistochemistry.
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Hi, yes l could recommend an antibody to the GIRK4 protein encoded by the Kcnj5. I would probably recommend either the Anti-GIRK4 (KCNJ5) antibody from Abcam or the Anti-KCNJ5/GIRK4 antibody from CST. Both of these antibodies are specific for the GIRK4 protein, which is encoded by the Kcnj5 gene.
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Hi! everyone. I need someone help to understand wb results. I got two band of different sizes, actually it is the sum of my actual band. Is there any possibility that my protein has been split or break into two parts after induction. If my protein has been split then, what are the possibilities behind it.
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Well, there are several options. It would help to know a little more about your overall experiment. Is the antibody to your protein or to a tag? Has the antibody been tested before and if so what did the results look like?
Assuming this is a protein-specific antibody, it is possible that your antibody recognizes more than just your one protein. If you have a knockout of your target protein in your organism that would help figure out if there is non-target binding.
It is also possible that your protein has splice variants, or is being cleaved, or has processing steps. You would only be seeing one part of any cleavage products as the epitope would be absent on one of the fragments.
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Western blotting
I got bands of the protein of interest,
I need to do the normalization of the proteins not against a housekeeper protein, but against the total amount of protein per lane.
using ImageJ software, how can I do it ?
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Hello, I found a video tutorial on ImageJ for western blot analysis. Hope it helps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-u3G7JhIAo
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Good morning. I recently performed a BCA, and I obtained the following values for my protein concentration. I formula I used in Excel was:
  • =(E39-0.0798)/0.0377
I then multiplied the value by 10 or 20 to get 10/20 ug of protein per uL.
However, when I did that, I got values greater than 90. What does this mean? How much sample should I load if I want 20 ug of protein per condition in a western blot?
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With the BCA assay you are measuring the absorbance. You need standards to make a standard curve from which you can interpret the concentration of protein in your samples. In Excel plot your absorbance along the x axis and standard concentrations along the y axis. You can then use the Format Trendline option to display the equation. It is advised to also try 2nd and 3rd order polynomials to see what best fits your data (see how well the predicted protein concentrations of the standards based on the absorbance correspond with what is expected). Assuming you are using a linear model with m = 0.0377 and c = 0.0798 and BCA assays typically measure in µg/ml, you would need to concentrate your samples by over 3 orders of magnitude to obtain 20µg/µl. As you have not shown or described the concentrations of your standards I cannot determine if you have already factored in the differences in magnitude. Assuming your values are in µg/µl you would need to divide 20 by the protein concentrations in your samples to determine the number of µl you will need.
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Hey all
A few of my lab-mates store the protein after quantification (I used bradford assay) in cell lysis buffer containing protease inhibitor in -80. While others add loading dye and denature the protein in 95 degree and store it in -20.
I have quantified the protein in the cell lysate. However dye to time constraints and huge sample protein I couldn't add the loading dye after the quantification process. (2 hours had already passed While I was calculating the amount of loading dye required for each sample). I got panicked thinking the protein in the cell lysate would be degraded and hence upon an advice from a fellow senior I aliquoted 20uL of each sample into another 1.5 mL centrifuge tube and stored the the stock and the aliquot in -80. So that I need not freeze and thaw my stock again and again.
Following are my queries
1. At what stage is it recommended to store the protein?
2. Does the concentration differ after storage?
3. Do I need to do bradford assay once again after I thaw them from -80?
4. what is the incubation period for bradford assay? (after adding BSA to the bradford reagent how long should I wait to take the reading or should I take the reading straight away?
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I think it was a good idea to set aside a small portion of the lysate for subsequent quantitation and preparation for electrophoresis if you were not able to do those steps immediately. I also agree with storing the bulk of the lysate at -80oC if you can't immediately proceed with purification steps. However, it would be better to prepare the lysate when you have time to go directly to the first purification step, since the lysate is the point at which proteolysis is most likely to be a problem. Freezing should be done as rapidly as possible, using a dry ice/ethanol bath or liquid nitrogen.
The concentration should not change during storage, unless there is significant precipitation, so it should not be necessary to repeat the Bradford assay. Make sure the sample is well-mixed after thawing, because some separation of solutes can occur during freezing.
The incubation period for the Bradford is 5-10 minutes. If you wait too long, the protein will precipitate due to the acidity of the reagent.
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"The reactivity of peptides was confirmed using western blotting and enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) assays"
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Assuming the peptide functions by binding. The target protein could be immobilized on a plate or transferred to a blot. Then the peptide (likely also with fluorescent / chemiluminescent tags) could be applied to bind to the protein for detection.
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I am trying to see if anyone has run into this issue with their westerblot. We recently got new primary and secondary and changed our blocking buffer in case the old one was contaminated. I can see our bands but is this background or uneven washing or something else.
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I would like to ask, what kDa may GSDME be detected? Thank you.
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Hello everybody. We have a problem with western blot.
wet transfer 100 min, 75mA in TGS 1x + 20% metOH.
does anyone help us to rescue this problem?
in attached you can see the ponceau staining image.
thanks
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I concur with Haidar Fayoud and most probably there were bubbles during the transfer to the membrane.
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For the western Blot, I need to check another antibody in my membrane but this antibody is from the same species as the first antibody so how can I do that without stripping? (Note: two antibodies are around 15 KDa away from each other.)
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Fatma Mohamed Fouad Yes, when using primary antibodies with different IgG subclasses eg. IgG2a & IgG2b, you can choose donkey-anti-species IgG2a for the first target, and goat-anti-species IgG2b, as such.
If you are probeing with multicolor (like Li-COR) then you can apply the antibodies at the same time, which is highly recommended. If not, then you can probe the first target then shift to the next.